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Author Topic: BYOR5.5 - Day 9: Just Kidding. Game Over.  (Read 130431 times)

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« Reply #360 on: December 24, 2010, 04:40:37 pm »

Well that was weird.

Zath, what happened to you ? Do we get a kind of jesus role that save people soul and bring em back as townies ? Some Kind of Necromancer Cult ? mna, i feel it's gonna get weird.

Of note, i wont be posting for 1-2, Christmas and all that. Wish you good holidays people.
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« Reply #361 on: December 24, 2010, 04:51:37 pm »

Archangel, why were you in such a rush to end me? Are you disappointed by my revival?

Why were you so determined to shut me down so fast? Were you scared I'd be able to claim something that would rock your whole case? Bitch?
I am convinced that you are scum. That is why I used my hammer on you. Not anywhere near as much as I am annoyed. But fuck you. I don't care.

Saying this will probably get me killed if I'm not lynched today, but I am both unblockable and provably town, though not as definitively provable as an investigative role like a Cop.
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« Reply #362 on: December 24, 2010, 05:08:31 pm »

Doesn't anyone stay dead anymore?

5. What do you think of Jokerman's claim that Zathras was ignoring his arguments?

6. Why did you miss Zathras' reasoning on Jokerman being cult?

5.  I'm not sure what you want with this one.  Zath flipped scum, so his motivations are revealed as self-interested.  Yes, he very well could have selectively ignored some, but many of his [Zath's] points are still valid.

6.  I didn't miss it.  I just didn't feel it required a response, as I didn't consider it particularly convincing- it was just theory spinning.
For 5, I want your opinion on Jokerman claiming that. You say Zath was self-interested, but that his points were valid, but I want to know what you think of Jokerman claiming that in the first place, not just the validity of it.

For 6, I meant the first time, when you did mention it to ask him about it.


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« Reply #363 on: December 24, 2010, 06:29:28 pm »

Nirur, could you be a little bit more specific?

Do you know the format of the haiku that one would have to say to get roleblocked?
Is it just three phrases with 5-7-5 syllables? Who decides what counts as a haiku, you or the mod?
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« Reply #364 on: December 24, 2010, 06:55:39 pm »

Doesn't anyone stay dead anymore?

5. What do you think of Jokerman's claim that Zathras was ignoring his arguments?

6. Why did you miss Zathras' reasoning on Jokerman being cult?

5.  I'm not sure what you want with this one.  Zath flipped scum, so his motivations are revealed as self-interested.  Yes, he very well could have selectively ignored some, but many of his [Zath's] points are still valid.

6.  I didn't miss it.  I just didn't feel it required a response, as I didn't consider it particularly convincing- it was just theory spinning.
For 5, I want your opinion on Jokerman claiming that. You say Zath was self-interested, but that his points were valid, but I want to know what you think of Jokerman claiming that in the first place, not just the validity of it.

For 6, I meant the first time, when you did mention it to ask him about it.


Org, it's day two. You promised usefulness.
I did, didn't I?
Well. It seems that my intent was to collect some information through some power, but it seems I was role-blocked, remember?'
Anyway, yeah I'll try to be good.
Also, Nirur's role sounds like bullshit, and he claimed so early.
Herp a derp derp.
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« Reply #365 on: December 24, 2010, 07:57:51 pm »

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I LIVE!

Jokerman, you useless bitch, you ought to know that if you strike me down, I'd become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!

He is totally scum, and I can prove it (well, argue it convincingly, not like I have an inspection result or anything like that). But that'll be a long post, and I don't have much time at the moment, so later with that.


A few other things: I no longer have my old role, alignment, and so on. I don't know who revived me, but it turned me into a vanilla townie. Powerless, but alive! I don't know how to make you believe that, but I volunteer to be blocked tonight or whatever if that helps. With that in mind, Nirur:

Ex-serial killer,
no longer Caligula.
Death: been there, done that.


I have some other stuff to add, but I'm sorta busy, so later. Glad to be back, though.

Merry merriments and happy happinesses to all y'all.
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« Reply #366 on: December 24, 2010, 08:34:31 pm »

Zathras. You are still probably a serial killer.
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Also Nirur.
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« Reply #367 on: December 25, 2010, 12:01:24 am »

There's some extreme roleblockery going on here.  I may as well claim some of it- I have an auto power that randomly jailkeepers (roleblock + protect) someone.  I can't control it at all.  Org, if your flavor mentioned protection, that was probably it hitting you.

Zathras, please give us three reasons we should believe you.

Native, I haven't forgotten you, but I want to hear from Zath first.

Irony:

5. What do you think of Jokerman's claim that Zathras was ignoring his arguments?

6. Why did you miss Zathras' reasoning on Jokerman being cult?

5.  I'm not sure what you want with this one.  Zath flipped scum, so his motivations are revealed as self-interested.  Yes, he very well could have selectively ignored some, but many of his [Zath's] points are still valid.

6.  I didn't miss it.  I just didn't feel it required a response, as I didn't consider it particularly convincing- it was just theory spinning.
For 5, I want your opinion on Jokerman claiming that. You say Zath was self-interested, but that his points were valid, but I want to know what you think of Jokerman claiming that in the first place, not just the validity of it.

For 6, I meant the first time, when you did mention it to ask him about it.

5.  ...I don't really have an opinion on that.  He either skimmed Zath's argument and missed it (which would be just sloppy), or intentionally missed and and misrepresented Zath as not responding to it (scummy).  I can't answer without being in his head, but if I had to guess, I'd pick option 1.

6.  The first time he labeled him as cult, he didn't provide reasoning at all.  I asked him directly in response to his first post to ask for his reasoning.  He responded to my post with his reasoning, which I saw as weak and baseless.  I didn't see a need to respond to it, so I didn't.

Does that answer your question?
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« Reply #368 on: December 25, 2010, 12:30:48 am »

Ex-serial killer,
no longer Caligula.
Death: been there, done that.

6-7-5 is not a haiku.

Also, this is reminding me of the role of Webadict in BYOR5. The one that Toony broke everything with.
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« Reply #369 on: December 25, 2010, 05:37:56 am »

Sorry guys. Christmas business.

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« Reply #370 on: December 25, 2010, 02:11:08 pm »

Oh, wait, I'm still alive. 

I should really  read more carefully.  :P

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« Reply #371 on: December 25, 2010, 02:13:28 pm »

Yyeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

WELLLLLLLLLL I'VE BEEN UP FOR AROUND 24 HOURS.

TIME TO SLEEP.

G'NIIIIIIGHT~
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« Reply #372 on: December 25, 2010, 05:19:54 pm »

Saying this will probably get me killed if I'm not lynched today, but I am both unblockable and provably town, though not as definitively provable as an investigative role like a Cop.
Didn't you say the hammer-power disabled your night kill, Archangel?

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« Reply #373 on: December 25, 2010, 05:22:20 pm »

Wait, it was Jokerman, right.
Never mind.


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« Reply #374 on: December 25, 2010, 09:54:32 pm »

All right... back to business. There's a lot to say, so I'll start now, but will probably not be done yet.


I'd like to take the opportunity to say fuck you, fuck you, and uhh...oh, fuck you to all y'all dicks.
Right back at ya, buddy.  8-P


Ex-serial killer,
no longer Caligula.
Death: been there, done that.
6-7-5 is not a haiku.

Hmmm... English is fuzzy about syllables sometimes. I break "serial"  as "se/rial", for five syllables there, but if you break it "se/ri/al" then it's six. As my point is that I'm OK with being blocked:

Block me, I don't mind.
I desire the Town's success.
Scum: go fuck yourselves.

More than syllables,
five-seven-five not enough.
Wit makes a haiku.

Libertarian, and
disestablishmentarian.
This, and more, I am.

Hope that suffices,
otherwise haikus I'll spam.
Y'all know I love this.


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Also, this is reminding me of the role of Webadict in BYOR5. The one that Toony broke everything with.
Hmmm... yeah. But there were too many revives for that, yes? You, me & Ottofar (how does anyone survive a modkill!?). There's more at play than a single explanation, surely. Only Person stayed on the ground. In any case, I can't offer much more than what I know. With that in mind:


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Zathras, please give us three reasons we should believe you.
Why three? Why not seven? Or one? I can't do more than tell you what I know, and you'll have to decide whether to believe me, lynch me, block me or whatever on your own. Here's the story as far as I can see it:
- I got killed by Jokerman (as per his claim, though my PM didn't say either way).
- I didn't get a deadchat. When I asked about this, I was given a non-answer.
- I got a new role PM. My skin was burned off, and Caligula disappeared, leaving only a ghostly/bony essence. I was told I could post again starting D2.
- I was not told who revived me or how (other than the cleansing fire flavour).
- My new role is somewhere between VT and survivor. I win if the town wins, but only if I'm alive at the end; from the wording I infer there's scum that must kill me too to win. The dual nature of the wincon makes me think there's more scum out there than we think, and that this game will be revive-happy.
- I have no powers.

There you have it. Make of it what you will.


On other things: I still believe Jokerman to be scum, and I'll go into more detail on that later. For now, a few questions and impressions on the others:

Pandar & Ottofar: Please also give us a description of how you revived, and whether your role or wincon changed. In other games, I'd generally assume anyone with a revive to be non-scum, as scum with a revive would be unbalanced. On the other hand, it seems that in this game revives are a dime a dozen, so neither of you are cleared on that account. Pandar was scummy yesterday, and that doesn't go away, though I admit I'm curious about the Fun & Exciting thing.

Archangel: That was a scummy thing you did, and all for nought. Prematurely ending the day D1 is generally in favour of scum. Only the fact that I also believed Pandar to be scum yesterday ameliorates it. Do you still think Pandar is scum? Are you still asking for a replacement?

Argembarger: Too lurky. Who are your top picks? If you were scum, who would you have killed last night and why?

Org: You were purposefully useless D1, claiming that you'd be useful N1 and D2. N1 you got blocked (or so you say, you may have dropped Mr.Person), so not useful, and D2 you've been useless too. Why aren't we better off without you? Did you kill Person? Who's your top three scumpicks?
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