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Author Topic: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!  (Read 14489 times)

USEC_OFFICER

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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #75 on: November 18, 2010, 11:29:58 am »

Elves probably don't even have souls at all,

You're terrible probably correct.

Fixed.
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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #76 on: November 18, 2010, 12:10:39 pm »

What happens if the dorf is buried in two+ places at once?

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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #77 on: November 18, 2010, 12:13:53 pm »

A ghost isn't tied in any way to its former body, beyond its desire to see the body properly interred, or its memory properly memorialized.  The soul is stored abstractly, not linked to the piece of meat a dwarf once inhabited.
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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #78 on: November 18, 2010, 12:48:26 pm »

So you can bury a single tooth of a dead dorf and let the rest of his body rot outside, get eaten by vultures and pissed on by goblins? I like this idea!
* Dariush goes to test it out

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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #79 on: November 18, 2010, 01:42:49 pm »

Another experiment to try?  Get a middling-small sized fortress up and running, say 20-30 dorfs.  Neglect to build any traps or military.  Once you have the appropriate number, which should only take a couple migrant waves, keep them sober and at the brink of starvation.  Wait for goblin ambush/siege.  Draft and send every last one of them outside to fight.  They will probably be extremely pissed off at this point.  When the inevitable happens, either through goblins or tantrum spiral, abandon and reclaim your fort.  Look for ghosts.

Also, for a nickname, I propose Party People
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I don't understand, though that is about right with anything DF related.
I just hope he dies the same death that all dwarfs deserve: liver disease.
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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #80 on: November 18, 2010, 02:19:05 pm »

I propose we stop with this nickname bullcrap already.
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So we got monsters above, monsters below, dwarves in the middle and a party in the dining hall. Sounds good to me.
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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #81 on: November 18, 2010, 04:30:12 pm »

The slab thing is nice though. Urist McJuniorEngineer was testing the new drawbridge and didn't notice the doctor or miner under it. Slabs saved me from an eternity of partying.  ;D

Speaking of, that might help with the initial ghostification, it removes the bodies so you don't have to worry about taking care of them one way or the other. Now if he hadn't had the pick...
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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #82 on: November 18, 2010, 04:47:34 pm »

I propose we stop with this nickname bullcrap already.

Seconded. A crippled dwarf is not "differently abled," and a retarded dwarf is not "mentally handicapped." Let's just stick with calling a spade a spade.
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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #83 on: November 18, 2010, 04:49:34 pm »

I propose we stop with this nickname bullcrap already.

Seconded. A crippled dwarf is not "differently abled," and a retarded dwarf is not "mentally handicapped." Let's just stick with calling a spade a spade.

I thought we used picks?

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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #84 on: November 18, 2010, 05:15:38 pm »

I propose we stop with this nickname bullcrap already.

Seconded. A crippled dwarf is not "differently abled," and a retarded dwarf is not "mentally handicapped." Let's just stick with calling a spade a spade.

I suggest that people with no sense of humor ignore those of us who do and stop being so grouchy. 
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I don't understand, though that is about right with anything DF related.
I just hope he dies the same death that all dwarfs deserve: liver disease.
The legend of Reg: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=65866.0
Atir Stigildegel, Legless Hero of Diamondrelic: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=83136.0

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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #85 on: November 18, 2010, 05:23:46 pm »

I propose we stop with this nickname bullcrap already.

Seconded. A crippled dwarf is not "differently abled," and a retarded dwarf is not "mentally handicapped." Let's just stick with calling a spade a spade.

I suggest that people with no sense of humor ignore those of us who do and stop being so grouchy.
If you think that there is something intrinsically hilarious about calling a ghost a 'partygoer', and you can't see how annoying it is to impede communications like that (e.g. making up pointless euphemisms for HFS), then you may not be the most qualified to talk about senses of humour.

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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #86 on: November 18, 2010, 05:28:09 pm »

It actually is mildly irritating. HFS was a term used by Toady to lump together
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So that people who wanted to find that stuff out for themselves could.

And then a bunch of people thought it would be funny to start drawing up euphemisms like clowns, goblinite, etc... forcing and spamming their memes related to DF everywhere on the forums and confusing the hell out of newbies and old DF players like us (Yes, get off my lawn- and before you complain about my forum age, this is not my first logon) who just want goblins to be goblins and demons to be demons and not have magma or killing elves be the answer to every single bloody question asked on the forums. Yes, it was amusing the first ten thousand times.

It's like people want to be part of some secretive 'DF cool kids club' that mastered the game and speak in secret code.

EDIT: Anyhow, that's all offtopic and I suggest we get back to figuring out if ghosts will kill things for us.
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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #87 on: November 18, 2010, 05:43:37 pm »

restless haunting ghosts has caused one dwarf to attack another. now the attacker is in jail.

I think that this is what happened, because the attacking dwarf is 'quite content' and have no reason to have started a fistfight (not a guard, nor a noble). he has in his status 'been haunted by the dead' and in the relationship everyone is a passing acquittance
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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #88 on: November 18, 2010, 05:58:53 pm »

Spade's a farmer's tool, but I call a shovel a shovel.

+1 internet for anyone who gets the reference...

The only thing the nicknames do is make people ask what they mean, at which point they're told, and are just as spoiled as they would have been from just reading "Demon". They are dumb and stupid. I'm all for using them for the sake of humor occasionally, but for common usage, no. Just say what you mean.
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Re: Weaponizing spooks, for !!SCIENCE!!
« Reply #89 on: November 18, 2010, 06:26:18 pm »

Three kinds of ghosts seem to exist:

- Those that flicker around the fortress randomy.

- Those that stay in one place.

- Those that follow other dwarves around.

Any others?
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