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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #76815 on: May 19, 2015, 02:12:18 pm »

I think people are just throwing the word "punk" onto things for fun at this point.
What?  that would be silly.

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« Reply #76816 on: May 19, 2015, 02:13:19 pm »

How about punkpunk? Renaissance artists discover a new form of bad music, and build an anarchistic society around it?

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I think you mean I'm ninjapunk.
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« Reply #76817 on: May 19, 2015, 02:14:48 pm »

Well then how would I label the setting where the noble knights can mow down hundreds of peasants with repeater crossbows powered up by gyroscopes while remaining immune to return-fire due to being in full plate armour, if not "gyropunk"?

I think that would fall within the bounds of ''clockpunk''.
Basically, as I understand it, clockpunk is Steampunk, but based on roughly 1600-ish technology and aesthethics instead of Victorian.
So, no Industrial revolution, no precision machining, instead you have intricate and ornamented handcrafted machinery, typically powered by muscles, wind or water, and whenever large energies are involved, things like springs and gyroscopes are used to store energy.
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« Reply #76818 on: May 19, 2015, 02:17:09 pm »

Isn't nicely fitting into typology pretty much the opposite of "punk"?
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« Reply #76819 on: May 19, 2015, 02:20:23 pm »

Isn't nicely fitting into typology pretty much the opposite of "punk"?
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it's like all those plots where Good is actualy Evil and Evil is actually Good

they're supposed to not fit into typology, too
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« Reply #76820 on: May 19, 2015, 02:21:08 pm »

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« Reply #76821 on: May 19, 2015, 02:23:38 pm »

Yep. All X-punks are at most basic 'advanced technology in X era, with social mores intact'. Labels are mostly by convention - Steam for Age of Steam, Cyber for Information Age (as imagined in its infancy), Bio for Biotech Age...

Gyroscopes were never The Big Thing in the development of technology the way Bronze, Steam or Computing was, and there is no particular reason to imagine they will in the future, so it's simply Not A Thing in itself, at best falling under a purview of another technological era.

Isn't nicely fitting into typology pretty much the opposite of "punk"?
Snowclones from Cyberpunk, which *was* firmly rooted in punk culture thematically.
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« Reply #76822 on: May 19, 2015, 02:27:23 pm »

Well then how would I label the setting where the noble knights can mow down hundreds of peasants with repeater crossbows powered up by gyroscopes while remaining immune to return-fire due to being in full plate armour, if not "gyropunk"?

I think that would fall within the bounds of ''clockpunk''.
Basically, as I understand it, clockpunk is Steampunk, but based on roughly 1600-ish technology and aesthethics instead of Victorian.
So, no Industrial revolution, no precision machining, instead you have intricate and ornamented handcrafted machinery, typically powered by muscles, wind or water, and whenever large energies are involved, things like springs and gyroscopes are used to store energy.

A good example of this is Syberia
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« Reply #76823 on: May 19, 2015, 02:29:03 pm »

there is no particular reason to imagine they will in the future
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel_energy_storage

They are the next big thing in energy storage department. Future railguns will most likely have energy for their shots stored in these things. It's pretty damn significant.
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« Reply #76824 on: May 19, 2015, 02:38:10 pm »

I was playing Deus Ex: Human Revolution the other day, and I think that perhaps the scariest part of the social commentary in it is that the protagonist can kill a bunch of people in the course of helping out an undercover cop, not be reprimanded, and this is presented as a Good Thing. I mean, sure, they were gangsters, but extrajudicial killings at the request of law enforcement leave a bad taste in my mouth >____________>
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Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« Reply #76825 on: May 19, 2015, 02:39:08 pm »

there is no particular reason to imagine they will in the future
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel_energy_storage

They are the next big thing in energy storage department. Future railguns will most likely have energy for their shots stored in these things. It's pretty damn significant.
You are entirely free to use that concept. I'm just saying nobody else finds that concept appealing enough to bother.
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« Reply #76826 on: May 19, 2015, 02:56:55 pm »

Which kind of punk did Dirty Harry have in mind, I wonder?
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« Reply #76827 on: May 19, 2015, 02:57:56 pm »

Ok what does the "Punk" in "whateverPunk" refer to?

Cyberpunk... makes sense... the main characters are usually a bunch of punks.
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« Reply #76828 on: May 19, 2015, 03:01:11 pm »

Exactly, Neonivek. It doesn't usually make so much sense for other 'punks - they're just formed by analogy to cyberpunk, with "punk" simply being carried over while "cyber" changes to something more fitting.
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« Reply #76829 on: May 19, 2015, 03:01:37 pm »

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