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[Mel_Vixen]

Egul ... well fitting for the king of the Sky. I hope we get a Phoenix sometimes soon . Oh can we have a story on Egul the ROC?

[Sowelu]

I wonder what the size on that Roc is going to be.

By all rights, it should be larger than a dragon.  If anything was going to be a multi-tile creature, my money would be on Rocs.  If a dragon was wagon-sized, Rocs would be depot-sized.  Remember, they carry off whales to eat.

[CharlesPeter]

I thought Toady said something about waiting a while to make multi-tile creatures. Something about them too large for you to strike their heads or bodies, as in they are too large for you to fight without some advanced "climb up his tail and strike his neck" options. Same with dragons and colossi. A dwarf being able to fight a colossus and strike its head is one of the temporary parts of combat before another large rewrite.

I think.

[Knigel]

Well, he said a 200-foot wingspan. A vulture (which probably had a close enough body shape) has a wingspan of roughly 7 feet, so the roc will be about 29 times a long, and thus it's volume will be about 23,000 times the size of a vulture (200/7 cubed). Fully-grown Vultures in-game have raw volume of 9000 cm^3, so that multiplied by 23,000 will gives us it's size in cm^3.

(calculates)

  209.9 million cm^3!? That's more than 8 times the size of a dragon! I think Toady and/or ThreeToe have to reconsider that wingspan measure.

[monk12]

Egul ... well fitting for the king of the Sky. I hope we get a Phoenix sometimes soon . Oh can we have a story on Egul the ROC?

Second!

So happy about eggs. Gonna gen an adventurer for the sole purpose of egging a megabeast to death.

"Assorted animals and thinking beings?" Care to elaborate on some of those?

[Urist Imiknorris]

209.9 million cm^3!? That's more than 8 times the size of a dragon! I think Toady and/or ThreeToe have to reconsider that wingspan measure.

Double the size of a dragon in each dimension.

By all rights, it should be larger than a dragon.  If anything was going to be a multi-tile creature, my money would be on Rocs.  If a dragon was wagon-sized, Rocs would be depot-sized.  Remember, they carry off whales to eat.

[iceball3]

Toady, do you plan to add any new values to the material raws in the very new future, if so, then what kind?

[Nivim]

 I think that volume math is a bit off since mass increases by cube while surface area increases by the square. This means that as the bird gets larger, it needs proportionally larger wings to fly. Of course, with magic, all bets are off.

[Mel_Vixen]

200 feet are ~ 61 Meters - a boing 747 has a wingspann of "68 Meters"  so we talk about a jumbojet sized Bird.

For everyone who does not know what a Boeing 747 is look at this picture.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Looks about right.

[1freeman]

Toady, will eggs have a stockpile option, and if so will it be considered food or an animal for stockpile purposes?

also will dwarfs be able to eat eggs or are they off limits.

Thanks.

[Dante]

That tiny phrase "and thinking beings" excites me.

[Mel_Vixen]

I guess that means the lizard and snake men heh and maybe cutebolds. 

[Urist Imiknorris]

And elves.

[Knigel]

I think that volume math is a bit off since mass increases by cube while surface area increases by the square. This means that as the bird gets larger, it needs proportionally larger wings to fly. Of course, with magic, all bets are off.

If that was necessary then animals that huge couldn't exist at all.