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[Phoebus]

Wow Phoebus you're on a roll!  Been loving all the updates, thanks for all the awesomeness.  Your tileset greatly improves my DF experience. 

Just wanted to chime in to agree with Aydjile, I'd like to see a version with just textures and no dots for regular, non-economic stones.  I think I'd probably play with that version if it were available as it would look cleaner, less cluttered.

--nomad_delta

And, what do you think about this?



It's all non-economic stone.
Dark: Basalt (extrusive)
Bright: Alunine (non-layer)

[greenskye]

I like that look a lot. Makes for a very clean feeling fort even before smoothing/engraving. Now that I feel I have enough experience with DF to tell the difference between stones I might switch over to a tileset like this.

[Aydjile]

I like that look a lot. Makes for a very clean feeling fort even before smoothing/engraving.

i concur.
and the last small detail would be - to remove the separation lines between tiles  and it would perfect and seamless!

[Jeoshua]

Is it possible to get layer stones working as the background of it, with inclusions and stuff within that layer stone as veins or impurities rendered on top of it through foreground/background variation?

Something like this is possible with Stonesense, where when you have a vein of ore within a layer, you can see the layer stone as the background color and the ore as the foreground color (making gold within dark stone almost too beautiful to mine)

[krenshala]

I agree removing the dot for non-economic stones it makes things look nice. I don't really have a preference between keeping it or removing the dot, however.

Removing the lines between tiles, unfortunately, causes some issues with "readability", not to mention it makes items like the trade depot look odd.

BTW, I've been working on a floor pattern that gives the plus while still looking like a tiled stone floor.  Its not quite what I was originally going for, but I like it.  The problem is I think its missing something and I can't quite figure out what isn't right about it, so I thought I'd post it for other opinions.  Here is the floor tile graphic (in GIMP .xcf layered format).  The all black and all white layers are just to allow me to see what it looks like with colored backgrounds.

[nomad_delta]

I like that look a lot. Makes for a very clean feeling fort even before smoothing/engraving. Now that I feel I have enough experience with DF to tell the difference between stones I might switch over to a tileset like this.

Same here, I likes it!  I can definitely see though that especially for new players it makes sense to have a clear delineation between "sand/soil" tiles and "stone" tiles so I agree about having the dots be the default.  It's a pretty minor difference, the "dots" version looks good too but the "no-dots" version feels a lot more natural and ambient.

--nomad_delta

[Phoebus]

I like that look a lot. Makes for a very clean feeling fort even before smoothing/engraving.

i concur.
and the last small detail would be - to remove the separation lines between tiles  and it would perfect and seamless!

You should really try the meld tileset.

Is it possible to get layer stones working as the background of it, with inclusions and stuff within that layer stone as veins or impurities rendered on top of it through foreground/background variation?

Something like this is possible with Stonesense, where when you have a vein of ore within a layer, you can see the layer stone as the background color and the ore as the foreground color (making gold within dark stone almost too beautiful to mine)

Not possible. Unless I try to hardcode vein/cluster stones to a specific layer graphic (which I probably should, +1 tile. )

I agree removing the dot for non-economic stones it makes things look nice. I don't really have a preference between keeping it or removing the dot, however.

Removing the lines between tiles, unfortunately, causes some issues with "readability", not to mention it makes items like the trade depot look odd.

BTW, I've been working on a floor pattern that gives the plus while still looking like a tiled stone floor.  Its not quite what I was originally going for, but I like it.  The problem is I think its missing something and I can't quite figure out what isn't right about it, so I thought I'd post it for other opinions.  Here is the floor tile graphic (in GIMP .xcf layered format).  The all black and all white layers are just to allow me to see what it looks like with colored backgrounds.

An important note. The tile needs a + as a foreground color (when it's not engraved) as the background is black when it's used as quality symbol or text.

[Jeoshua]

I rather like the concept that one can't tell if a rock is sandstone or just sand until you go up and examine it more closely.  After all, what's really the different between sand and sandstone? They shouldn't look all that different from a distance (if there really is a functional difference, at all)

Hmm, I should probably see if I can somehow mod sandstone to be used in glassmaking.

[Phoebus]

I rather like the concept that one can't tell if a rock is sandstone or just sand until you go up and examine it more closely.  After all, what's really the different between sand and sandstone? They shouldn't look all that different from a distance (if there really is a functional difference, at all)

Hmm, I should probably see if I can somehow mod sandstone to be used in glassmaking.

I think glassmaking is currently very hardcoded.
AFAIK, the only tags related to glassmaking are [SAND] and [CRYSTAL_GLASSABLE].
And I don't think it's too wise to allow sandstone to be turned into crystal glass.

Edit.: Unrelated mood: NAKED MOD!   

[Jeoshua]

Yeah sandstone should produce common green glass, if anything.  I wish that were controllable.

[krenshala]

BTW, I've been working on a floor pattern that gives the plus while still looking like a tiled stone floor.  Its not quite what I was originally going for, but I like it.  The problem is I think its missing something and I can't quite figure out what isn't right about it, so I thought I'd post it for other opinions.  Here is the floor tile graphic (in GIMP .xcf layered format).  The all black and all white layers are just to allow me to see what it looks like with colored backgrounds.

An important note. The tile needs a + as a foreground color (when it's not engraved) as the background is black when it's used as quality symbol or text.

D'oh!  I just knew I was doing something wrong with this one.  That's what I get for doing that kind of work 10 minutes after climbing out of bed.    Other than having the usage inverted, what did you think of it?

[Phoebus]

BTW, I've been working on a floor pattern that gives the plus while still looking like a tiled stone floor.  Its not quite what I was originally going for, but I like it.  The problem is I think its missing something and I can't quite figure out what isn't right about it, so I thought I'd post it for other opinions.  Here is the floor tile graphic (in GIMP .xcf layered format).  The all black and all white layers are just to allow me to see what it looks like with colored backgrounds.

An important note. The tile needs a + as a foreground color (when it's not engraved) as the background is black when it's used as quality symbol or text.

D'oh!  I just knew I was doing something wrong with this one.  That's what I get for doing that kind of work 10 minutes after climbing out of bed.    Other than having the usage inverted, what did you think of it?

Basic design is good, but too high contrast, and the emboss values are strange. Contrast is easy to fix.

Spoiler: Original vs Less Emboss Contrast (click to show/hide)

Edit:
The original emboss ratios are 150%/50%/50%/0% which makes the emboss look very weird.
If you balance the ratios to 200%/133%/67%/0% or 200%/150%/50%/0%, the tiles look much better, :

Spoiler: Side Light vs Top light vs Second Ratios vs High Contrast Second Ratios (click to show/hide)

Edit: My attempts to make my version look more convex/less concave.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Edit: I think I got it. I've made the grooves 15% darker.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

[Jeoshua]

Mmm.  It looks smooth, yet technical.  Clean, yet complicated.

My only gripe is it looks TOO clean, almost machined.  And while I like Dwarfy machines, I don't think it quite fits.

The lower contrast ones look like cobblestones, tho.

[greenskye]

quick question: what button does the stockpile grid icon represent? (default set)

[krenshala]

BTW, I've been working on a floor pattern that gives the plus while still looking like a tiled stone floor.  Its not quite what I was originally going for, but I like it.  The problem is I think its missing something and I can't quite figure out what isn't right about it, so I thought I'd post it for other opinions.  Here is the floor tile graphic (in GIMP .xcf layered format).  The all black and all white layers are just to allow me to see what it looks like with colored backgrounds.

An important note. The tile needs a + as a foreground color (when it's not engraved) as the background is black when it's used as quality symbol or text.

D'oh!  I just knew I was doing something wrong with this one.  That's what I get for doing that kind of work 10 minutes after climbing out of bed.    Other than having the usage inverted, what did you think of it?

Basic design is good, but too high contrast, and the emboss values are strange. Contrast is easy to fix.

Spoiler: Original vs Less Emboss Contrast (click to show/hide)

Edit:
The original emboss ratios are 150%/50%/50%/0% which makes the emboss look very weird.
If you balance the ratios to 200%/133%/67%/0% or 200%/150%/50%/0%, the tiles look much better, :

Spoiler: Side Light vs Top light vs Second Ratios vs High Contrast Second Ratios (click to show/hide)

Edit: My attempts to make my version look more convex/less concave.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Edit: I think I got it. I've made the grooves 15% darker.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I think I've fixed it.  Try this one (I've overwritten the old one on my site).

[edit]Argh!  The background comes out grey with a colored + on it instead of being all the stone color (hiding the +) when engraved.  I just can't seem to brain this week when it comes to art.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)