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[Acanthus117]

Darn. Sarcasm is rather hard to convey on teh intarwebz.

[Max White]

I didn't mean sub races as in human is a race, and then a civilization is a subrace, by sub race I meant minor race that is more annoying then the major ones that are for trade of killing you, such as kobalds.

So, for example, when you embark you could be in range of any number of sub races, or few at all (Due to there lower survival rate at world gen) and not know what to expect.

It adds an awesome element to the game when you have no idea when a pack of wolfmen might come from the mountains to attack, or vulturemen may swoop down to grab a tasty child snack.

[jayseesee]

I tend to agree here.  Sure there's plenty of races to trade with (read: steal their crap at Depot).  But where's the sense of viciousness we come to know in love?  That was partly why I loved Dig Deeper so damn much, from Summer-1, you were battling off actual SIEGES.  Ahh, I miss that.

Is there a way to make a few different bellicose races that sometimes survive worldgen, sometimes don't, that would siege you more often than the current 80 Population tag?  I currently have titans set to 20 pop 50k exported to make stuff a bit more FUN for myself, and would love to see some civs actively want to destroy me.  (Makes me feel special!

[nekoexmachina]

I've got a strange bug here: in some worlds i can not build training dummy or other new stuff, e.g. there is no such option in workspaces menu.

[Max White]

I tend to agree here.  Sure there's plenty of races to trade with (read: steal their crap at Depot).  But where's the sense of viciousness we come to know in love?  That was partly why I loved Dig Deeper so damn much, from Summer-1, you were battling off actual SIEGES.  Ahh, I miss that.

Is there a way to make a few different bellicose races that sometimes survive worldgen, sometimes don't, that would siege you more often than the current 80 Population tag?  I currently have titans set to 20 pop 50k exported to make stuff a bit more FUN for myself, and would love to see some civs actively want to destroy me.  (Makes me feel special!

Well weaker races sometime survive worldgen, but then they ARE weaker, so you might not want that. I find giving them boarder line good/bad  ethical behavior will sometimes cause your civilization to start a war with them, and other times not, so you don't know if they will attack you or not.

As for more attacks, give them more active seasons!

[Acanthus117]

Hey, for the animalmen, you can just copy and modify the one used for underground civs.

[Max White]

Hey, for the animalmen, you can just copy and modify the one used for underground civs.

I would like to give them all a unique taste, so that you can't just make a general defense against them. Not to mention that some of them are going to be friendly! This means that while wolfmen are always your enemy, and cougarmen are always friendly, tiger men will swap between the two, and I find that a lot more interesting.
People in adventure mode will probably agree with me.

Anyway, I plan on making an overhaul of the underground civilizations once I'm done with the above ground.

[Acanthus117]

Hey, for the animalmen, you can just copy and modify the one used for underground civs.

I would like to give them all a unique taste, so that you can't just make a general defense against them. Not to mention that some of them are going to be friendly! This means that while wolfmen are always your enemy, and cougarmen are always friendly, tiger men will swap between the two, and I find that a lot more interesting.
People in adventure mode will probably agree with me.

Anyway, I plan on making an overhaul of the underground civilizations once I'm done with the above ground.

Sounds good.

[Deon]

I've got a strange bug here: in some worlds i can not build training dummy or other new stuff, e.g. there is no such option in workspaces menu.

Can you give me any save like that please? It would be good to find out why is this happening.

[nekoexmachina]

Can you give me any save like that please? It would be good to find out why is this happening.

Here i got library, crutch training, etc, but no training dummy:
http://rghost.net/1417146
Also, i'm playing under wine, but that should not cause this problem. Also, i play without graphics.

[Deon]

Oh, then you may want to get an ascii version. Which character set do you use (link pls ?

[Max White]

So what do you guys think of the possibility of a plunger? That being a leaver that deconstructs itself after one use. I don't know if it can be done, but you guys would know better then me.

Why you ask? Having these leavers linked to things that deconstruct themselves is just annoying because you need to keep track of them.

[nekoexmachina]

Oh, then you may want to get an ascii version. Which character set do you use (link pls

Default one, still i have not yet seen any black squares instead of items.
Just checked with graphics version - no change with dummy.

[Deon]

Yeah by some things look weird.

Also do you really use curses_640x300.bmp? That's the default one. I find 16x16 to be better, and there's a lot of ASCII awesome sets. Why don't you use them?

[nekoexmachina]

Well, i use default 800x600 curses.bmp, not 640x300
also, it's just a thing of a habit - i simply do not see df with any other ascii tiles. But i'll give a try if i found pretty ones.