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[Cheddarius]

My projected resources last turn and the resources I actually have aren't the same (e.g. I expected 6 food but I have 2). Where did I make mistakes?

[Knight Otu]

Where did I make mistakes?

In your assumption that it's your mistake. Seems I forgot to update your granary and wool. Should indeed be 6 food, and 1 wool. The rest should be correct.

[Cheddarius]

Hmmm, yep, yep. It seems I forgot about my Deep Mine and forgot to change resources when I switched out of pasture spamming. Thanks!

[IronyOwl]

Man, those random event tables like me.

You might want to double check my food and money; they're a bit higher than I predicted. Also, would 954 "extra" population round up to a full extra labor unit, rather than down to 9 labor pool points?

Any chance of seeing a ship's stats before it's built, or do we have to learn through experience?

Spoiler: On The Topic Of Coinage And Horsemills (click to show/hide)

How do mills interact with improvements that produce "X or Y" and resources that produce "+1 X or +Y money"? If you have a watermill on a hunting camp, for instance, can the mill produce +1 leather if the camp is producing +1 food that turn, or does the "already produced" part mean it only works if the tile is already producing it that turn?

In a vaguely similar vein, would using a mill while producing money from a valuable metal mine produce +1 Money, or would it double the money production from the resource?

Would a beast pen produce an elephant and a half, or an extra half-elephant?

How would it interact with a pasture producing +1 animal at the cost of food- would you get +2 animal and 1 less food, or would it cost an extra food?

Was the part about "horse farms can never be improved to produce more than 1 horse" referring to researching extra-efficient horse farms, or trying to say you can't use mills to get extra animals?

Do players who ask difficult and complicated questions about things they don't even have the technology to pull off annoy you?

[Vanigo]

I think when Knight Otu says horse farms and pastures can't be improved to give more than one animal, he means mills can't improve animal production.

[Cheddarius]

Was the part about "horse farms can never be improved to produce more than 1 horse" referring to researching extra-efficient horse farms, or trying to say you can't use mills to get extra animals?

SOLUTION: BUILD WINDMILL WITH GIANT DONGS FOR ARMS. IMPREGNATE HORSES FASTER. PROFIT.

[abculatter_2]

Was the part about "horse farms can never be improved to produce more than 1 horse" referring to researching extra-efficient horse farms, or trying to say you can't use mills to get extra animals?

SOLUTION: BUILD WINDMILL WITH GIANT DONGS FOR ARMS. IMPREGNATE HORSES FASTER. PROFIT.

Why did that make me laugh so much?


Also, RP posted. Haven't proofread it yet, and probably won't before the next turn.

[IronyOwl]

My turn assumes I am indeed owed an extra labor; will fix if incorrect, but just drop shield production if you want to do the turn now. (doubtful, but I can hope )


In any case, I'm not sure I want to see Cheddarius' industrial revolution. Though that would certainly be a more ingenious combination of two techs than I'd have expected.

[Knight Otu]

Man, those random event tables like me.

For now. And your exploration rolls haven't been quite that good.

You might want to double check my food and money; they're a bit higher than I predicted. Also, would 954 "extra" population round up to a full extra labor unit, rather than down to 9 labor pool points?

Money should be correct. Food is 1 too high, true. Labor should be 16+2, +1 for filling the labor pool, so 19 labor is correct (should be 3/10 in the labor pool rather than 2/10 though).

Any chance of seeing a ship's stats before it's built, or do we have to learn through experience?

Small warships have a base <A2/D3/H15/S5/> before the "seaworthy" modifiers.

How do mills interact with improvements that produce "X or Y" and resources that produce "+1 X or +Y money"? If you have a watermill on a hunting camp, for instance, can the mill produce +1 leather if the camp is producing +1 food that turn, or does the "already produced" part mean it only works if the tile is already producing it that turn?

In a vaguely similar vein, would using a mill while producing money from a valuable metal mine produce +1 Money, or would it double the money production from the resource?

The mills can only add resources that are added during that turn. When working a hunted forest, if you don't produce the leather, the mill can't improve that leather production. You can't choose money as the resource to be improved.

Would a beast pen produce an elephant and a half, or an extra half-elephant?

How would it interact with a pasture producing +1 animal at the cost of food- would you get +2 animal and 1 less food, or would it cost an extra food?

Not applicable. Animal production can't be improved by mills, which I'll make more clear in the rules posts.

Was the part about "horse farms can never be improved to produce more than 1 horse" referring to researching extra-efficient horse farms, or trying to say you can't use mills to get extra animals?

You can't use mills to get extra animals. Research may be able to uncover more efficient farms which you'd then build over existing farms, similar to mines and deep mines.

Do players who ask difficult and complicated questions about things they don't even have the technology to pull off annoy you?

He he he...

[IronyOwl]

Alright, extra labor removed as well as, uh, fairly numerous errors corrected. Should have proofread that better.

[abculatter_2]

Soooo...

[Knight Otu]

Almost there. There is also some decision-making pending that could impact the way the turn goes.

Edit: Turn's up, mostly. There's a drake combat to be resolved.

[abculatter_2]

I think you skipped the half-elephant I made last turn, though I'm not sure.

Also, can I use gold as a replacement for stone with that unknown idols structure?

Also also, how much freedom will I have with actions involving blessed obsidian? Should I just ask when the need arises?

Also also also, do quarries have an equivalent to deep mines?

[Knight Otu]

I think you skipped the half-elephant I made last turn, though I'm not sure.

Looks like it. I'll add it.

Also, can I use gold as a replacement for stone with that unknown idols structure?

No. Unless something allows otherwise, only the stated resources can be used.

Also also, how much freedom will I have with actions involving blessed obsidian? Should I just ask when the need arises?

Depends. Blessed obsidian is a magic resource, and as such is mostly used for magic actions and structures, rather than building mundane structures.

Also also also, do quarries have an equivalent to deep mines?

Well, not yet.

[IronyOwl]

What techs would taming and riding drakes require?