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[Leafsnail]

YOu are forgetting to take into account that all the most likely methods of archiving immortality remove the babymaking parts.

Uh, I know it increases your life expectancy significantly (at least if you're male), but immortality from that route doesn't seem likely.

[Armok]

well, brain uploading/brain-in-jar does. Now, there are possible anti-aging tech that dosn't do that, but those generally only protect against ageing, not violent accidents, so the average age of death would still be just a  few thousand years or so.
Actually, that same point still works for brain-in-jars as well. really, the only realistic possibility of true immortality is uploading, and then keeping backups in many different galaxies.

[Cthulhu]

I still think transhumanism is a cop-out.  You're just avoiding the reality of death by thinking of ways you won't have to deal with it.

[TheNewerMartianEmperor]

There is always the chance of moving to another dimension with very different laws that do allow immortality.

[Osmosis Jones]

There is always the chance of moving to another dimension with very different laws that do allow immortality.

... Aging is a biological process, (it is, in effect, planned obsolescence of our cells) intrinsically linked with the basic mechanisms of our body. Any environment where the aging process cannot occur, you would also have an environment where the rest of our biological processes are similarly inhibited. Basically, if you found a universe where you could live forever, you'd be dead.

[Armok]

I still think transhumanism is a cop-out.  You're just avoiding the reality of death by thinking of ways you won't have to deal with it.

Except that in order to be a serous transhumanist (or at least the kind I am), you are supposed to be Rational and Scientific, and as such psychological consequences like those is not a factor in belief.
Besides, the premise of the discusion was the conseueces of imortality, the fact if imortality is posible in the first place is a separate question, and really boils down to physics (is infinite computation possible before Big Crunch/heat death?).

[Cthulhu]

While I believe you're being highly irrational, if we do find immortality, castration is out of the question.  I don't want to live forever, and I certainly don't want to give up my Land Raider Crusader for it.

[Realmfighter]

While I believe you're being highly irrational, if we do find immortality, castration is out of the question.  I don't want to live forever, and I certainly don't want to give up my Land Raider Crusader for it.

I would give anything to live forever.

Eternal life may be boring and lonely as hell, but at least you still exist.

[Cthulhu]

Even your Dungeon Master?

[Realmfighter]

Even your Dungeon Master?

It may just be the fact that i turned my brain off for the weekend, but i have no idea what you just said.

[Cthulhu]

Your Void Dragon.  Your +3 Greatsword.  Your Staff of Kings.  Your Warhound Titan.

Reread my first post.

[Gunner-Chan]

I know for a fact I would never give up THAT for something I would never want. I'm honestly more scared more of living too long than death. Death is an end, living? Who knows...

[Realmfighter]

Your Void Dragon.  Your +3 Greatsword.  Your Staff of Kings.  Your Warhound Titan.

Reread my first post.

Oh.

I know for a fact I would never give up THAT for something I would never want. I'm honestly more scared more of living too long than death. Death is an end, living? Who knows...

I like life. I enjoy it with all my being. Death, on the other hand i don't know if i would like or dislike and since i personally believe that when i die i will just stop existing i want as much life as possible.

[nil]

Aging and death aren't necessarily inevitable, on a biological level.  Like sleep, (although probably to a lesser degree) I'd wager it stems from evolution 'caring' more about our reproduction than our lives.  Meanwhile, brain-machine interfacing proceeds at a starting pace--we got bionic eyes, bionic ears, monkeys playing video games via electrodes.  Moore's law is mostly still holding up.  Also, I wouldn't worry about the reproduction aspect of it; the stuff we're talking about would take place exclusively in extremely developed countries, which in turn already have neutral population growth.

Barring a major problem that retards civilization in general I'm confident we'll see at least some transhumanist predictions come true (although I often have major doubts that we'll pull off that first part). 

[Osmosis Jones]

I never said they weren't inevitable, just, that at present, they're linked. As in, they are both controlled by the genetic information encoded into our DNA.
There is no physical reason we can't change our biology (our as the species, not our as in the individual people) to eventually remove the cell death feature (honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the necessary knowledge for that genetic manipulation is found within our lifetimes).
However, as it currently stands, they're linked enough that going to any place (by which I mean the alternate dimension or whatever TNME was going on about) where the mechanisms behind aging no longer function will also mean the rest of your biology will cease as well.