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Author Topic: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.  (Read 40268 times)

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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #165 on: January 25, 2012, 04:59:13 pm »

Did you know that spell check does not recognize the word "craptacular"?
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #166 on: January 25, 2012, 04:59:33 pm »

So, what happens tomorrow, when it goes into effect?
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #167 on: January 25, 2012, 05:01:59 pm »

I'm betting that Facebook and Youtube will go down, leading to angry mobs millions strong bashing down government doors everywhere.
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #168 on: January 25, 2012, 05:02:27 pm »

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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #169 on: January 25, 2012, 05:03:06 pm »

Alot of countrys have already signed up. The fact is the thing is "international" so theirs bugger all way for anyone apart from governments to try repeal it.

I didnt even know the thing existed untill a few days ago.

Watch the video i posted. Thats a generaly balanced veiw on the entire affair.
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #170 on: January 25, 2012, 05:28:52 pm »

Holy shit. That's astonishing. I knew SOPA would be tried again but I didn't expect it to happen a week after it was shelved with something that was created before SOPA. This is huge.
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #171 on: January 25, 2012, 05:31:07 pm »

Holy shit. That's astonishing. I knew SOPA would be tried again but I didn't expect it to happen a week after it was shelved with something that was created before SOPA. This is huge.

SOPA has always been the enforcement trigger for ACTA.
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #172 on: January 25, 2012, 05:39:30 pm »

Well fuck... What cha doing over there US? Looks like you have a gun, is... is that thing loaded? Your are going to shoot yourself in the foot? And everybody else here too? Look I know times seem tough, what with the economic crisis and all, but there is no need to-
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Ok but seriously now, if I make a new church and say that intellectual property theft is part of my religion, could I make a killing being the only person in the world who can afford to host an ISP?

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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #173 on: January 25, 2012, 05:43:19 pm »

Well fuck... What cha doing over there US? Looks like you have a gun, is... is that thing loaded? Your are going to shoot yourself in the foot? And everybody else here too? Look I know times seem tough, what with the economic crisis and all, but there is no need to-
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Why?!?!?

Ok but seriously now, if I make a new church and say that intellectual property theft is part of my religion, could I make a killing being the only person in the world who can afford to host an ISP?
The religion already exists, and is called Kopimi (pronounce Copy Me). It is even recognized by at least one country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionary_Church_of_Kopimism
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #175 on: January 25, 2012, 05:55:21 pm »

I think based on what I read.... tomorrow is suppose to be when the Poland Parliament signs up to join ACTA.

Meaning Poland will be part of the ACTA treaty along with the others who signed. It's not the activation of ACTA yet.

That requires the European Parliament to Green light.

Also while I'm at it. I'm going to post this again since this will is on a more relevant thread on the subject matter.

There are some thing people have uncovered about ACTA that proves that on it's own. It's power is limited. However if bills like SOPA and PIPA are passed then ACTA becomes dangerous! So here let me post this here for you to read.

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I know that we all talked about SOPA and PIPA and now ACTA. But recently a friend of mine pointed me out to something pretty important.

ACTA in it's final version. Is mearly a treaty designed to allow those that sign it to gain the power to monitor everyone's actions on the net. But only, if they can pass a bill that can allow internet censorship.

So on it's own ACTA can do nothing.

However, if a bill passes through the government and becomes law. ACTA can be enforced based upon the bill that becomes law.

So in otherwords. ACTA is only as powerful as the bill that pass through congress and becomes law.

And this also means that SOPA and PIPA were the US's attempt to put laws in place to enforce ACTA when(and if) the European Parliment activates it.

Here's a link that explains it all.
http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/or8ag/ive_read_the_final_version_of_acta_heres_what_you/

More or less, internet copyright censorship battles are far from over. Since our governments will try to put bills on the table to pass so they can apply ACTA to it.

So in other words even if ACTA is enforced, what needs to happen is that legilations that center around internet censorship (like SOPA and PIPA) shouldn't pass unless you want the internet to monitor your action based on the legislation.

Again I highly recommend you read the contents in the link
« Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 05:59:18 pm by Totaku »
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #176 on: January 25, 2012, 06:06:00 pm »

I hope my own country burns in flames for this...I'm seriously praying for that to happen.
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #177 on: January 25, 2012, 06:10:13 pm »

Yea, apparently we have signed up, not surprised. Australia is like Milhouse, it will do anything the US tells it to.

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« Reply #178 on: January 25, 2012, 06:11:31 pm »

Canada has been getting snarky. Would Australia be interested in the position of 'hat'?
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Re: Secret copyright treaty leaked. It's not good.
« Reply #179 on: January 25, 2012, 06:12:12 pm »

Vote's today. Should the worst come to pass, everyone in the EU should start contacting their MEPs.
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