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Author Topic: Things that made you sad today thread.  (Read 9797490 times)

Neonivek

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97140 on: September 15, 2015, 10:12:02 pm »

The biggest thing is you have to want to change.

But right now I either don't care, I am too stressed/depressed, or I am too hurt (by something) to want to.

Right now I am going for option A, because option A at least has some degree of fault to it.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97141 on: September 15, 2015, 10:13:35 pm »

The biggest thing is you have to want to change.

But right now I either don't care, I am too stressed/depressed, or I am too hurt (by something) to want to.

Right now I am going for option A, because option A at least has some degree of fault to it.

What's there to be done about not caring, then? If you don't care, why do you post about it? I think you should take a break if you're so conflicted.
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Neonivek

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97142 on: September 15, 2015, 10:14:44 pm »

Because not caring is bad, and I should care that people are starting/already to hate me?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97143 on: September 15, 2015, 10:14:57 pm »

I have that distinct feeling I'm about to fail at something really important again
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97144 on: September 15, 2015, 10:15:45 pm »

I have that distinct feeling I'm about to fail at something really important again

Practice or do a trial version.

Sometimes the easiest way to deal with stress is to be ready.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97145 on: September 15, 2015, 10:16:59 pm »

I don't know how much practice I can possibly get towards trying to make someone feel like they belong to something. And yet here we are and they don't. And they want to.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97146 on: September 15, 2015, 10:17:07 pm »

Because not caring is bad, and I should care that people are starting/already to hate me?

If you think anyone on this forum hates you, I think you really need to see from a viewpoint that isn't clouded with needless self-loathing.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2015, 10:20:48 pm by Laptisen »
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97147 on: September 15, 2015, 10:20:00 pm »

If anyone legitimately hates you, at least you're very important to them.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97148 on: September 15, 2015, 10:27:11 pm »

Not to be a downer but I'm certain quite a few people definitely hate Neonivek.

And if you don't care enough to change then it's not like the people who hate you will hunt you down and kill you or anything, and the only reason to be upset about them is because they show that you have faults, but you don't have to be likeable to be happy.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97149 on: September 15, 2015, 10:35:39 pm »

The only thing I dislike about Neo is that his posts are... at times, hard to read. Like, the words by themselves make sense, but all together it turns into wordsalad and I have no idea what he wants.

That's also probably why his 'voice' in my head is very monotonous.

Ends up being I skim over his posts, actually :v Same with Tiruin, though with them they also have the factor of their posts being so very dense, with aisdes all over the place, and worded weirdly enough that it would be too much effort to read them through and try and parse just what the heck she's trying to say. >_>
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97150 on: September 15, 2015, 10:39:19 pm »

Usually it has to do with the fact that I consistently complain about things and usually project an unintentional loathing (and when it is intention yikes) which polarizes people. Some people find it refreshing, some don't mind, but there are certainly those who care.

Though lately it has to do with rudeness and brashness topped on top of it.

you don't have to be likeable to be happy.

I, actually do. I believe that willingly being a part of someone's misery is something wrong for me to do. Being a "good person" is something I deem as important, and many desire for the recognition and happiness of others is a constant detriment as I have very little ability to be happy in myself.

Or rather... I have no self-motivators and my self-esteem comes from others.

The only thing I dislike about Neo is that his posts are... at times, hard to read. Like, the words by themselves make sense, but all together it turns into wordsalad and I have no idea what he wants.

That's also probably why his 'voice' in my head is very monotonous.

Ends up being I skim over his posts, actually :v Same with Tiruin, though with them they also have the factor of their posts being so very dense, with aisdes all over the place, and worded weirdly enough that it would be too much effort to read them through and try and parse just what the heck she's trying to say. >_>

Hmmm I wonder if I can write what I just wrote in a way Descan would appreciate... hmm...

I don't think I could sleep well at night knowing I am making others unhappy. I know it is wrong of me to feel this way but I can't make 'myself' feel good, I need to either make others happy or to seek their approval or accolades.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97151 on: September 15, 2015, 10:41:38 pm »

Because not caring is bad, and I should care that people are starting/already to hate me?

If you think anyone on this forum hates you, I think you really need to see from a viewpoint that isn't clouded with needless self-loathing.
Yeah walking from there without a solid plan of operations and/or goals is a fruitless endeavor.

If this is because of the wtf thread thing your stated reason was kind of shit as someone pointed out Akura started the WTF thread and it is applicable to him by the logic of your reason. I guess people assumed you were doing that thing (that you profess to hate others do) at greatorder.
And your e-personality is abrasive and I guess it has to do with
Heck a lot of the time I am just saying exactly how I feel without any sort of buttering up of my speech to ensure people don't get aggravated at me.
and that you don't make up for the lube that you would have from that butter in other ways. You toss out opinions without pleasantry or supporting facts that formed the opinion. People who disagree have little to do but be chaffed by your raw-dogging and have no outlet for it but you yourself.

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When you toss out your controversial opinions toss out how you reached that as well. Feelings mean precious little shit to those who can't identify them.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97152 on: September 15, 2015, 10:49:28 pm »

Also when discussing works and characters, try to look up their names first? I know it's not intended and you have trouble with remembering them, but when you refer to them without remembering the names correctly it confuses people and doing it a lot comes off as disrespectful to the work itself.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97153 on: September 15, 2015, 11:22:20 pm »

Sad: I'm experiencing anxiety! ._.
...Which is not really a sad, and more like 'Oooo, experience. Oh dear .-. '



Erh...Neo? I'll send you a PM regarding your woes here...but...

Because not caring is bad, and I should care that people are starting/already to hate me?
You posting it already signifies that you care--maybe you're 'falling into the pit' of mirror'ing the maybe-all-too-common thing of people saying 'I DUN CARE' for...several reasons beyond my comprehension on why they say it despite the intent or idea behind it not matching the idea at all.
When people don't understand fully an idea in social contexts, its usually treated with confusion at first, or curiosity...and whatever follows is usually based on how you commonly see others react/interact.

[..]
Yet... I can logically surmise that if I don't find a reason to care to play the "game" of social interaction. That it will just get worse.
This is gonna be a loooong PM. But put things into perspective--when people say [TOTALLY NEGATIVE ADJECTIVE] about YOU, they're describing how either the presentation [ie Structure/message or wording of your post is], or the attitude beneath the idea of the post.
...People don't seriously think that about others if they understood what exactly they're thinking about [albeit conflated because of the output]--and this usually is to the fun thing that makes us people: We're like the output of many things--our experiences [past/present], our thoughts [which have a wide variety of stuff], what we're exposed to [because this influences our experiences a lot], and many more.

In your context...its mostly your presentation or how you present your idea.

I don't know how much practice I can possibly get towards trying to make someone feel like they belong to something. And yet here we are and they don't. And they want to.
Indefinite limitation :) Meaning there's no limitation to how much one can try something--many, many ways of presentation and going about the 'towards' exists.
Now on the 'feel' part: Do note that its...a mixture of representations. 'You belong/You don't belong/I feel ostracized/I don't belong here[...]' are many ways to go about it...but there's a root idea causing all that which gives off the thought of belongingness. Ask them what they think--or being direct--tends to be the best way. Then help with guide questions along the path to knowing why they feel that way.
Just being there to support them is one big thing. Being yourself [ie Being your intent + continuity] is also another one.

Whoever that person is, I'd say they belong here, no matter who they are, though.

Ends up being I skim over his posts, actually :v Same with Tiruin, though with them they also have the factor of their posts being so very dense, with aisdes all over the place, and worded weirdly enough that it would be too much effort to read them through and try and parse just what the heck she's trying to say. >_>
* Tiruin has dense posts :D
...This got me thinking about physics more than getting me to think about 'how to make my idea concise' .-. But I tend to infer that the idea should be presented with a ton o' detail.
I'm told that its very easy for me to grasp and understand complex ideas...its just the re-presentation to others in me breaking it down is where the difficulties exist.
* Tiruin apologizes for her presentation skills.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2015, 11:26:36 pm by Tiruin »
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #97154 on: September 15, 2015, 11:54:32 pm »

* Tiruin apologizes for her presentation skills.
* ArKFallen thanks Tiruin for her presentations.
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