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[SirAaronIII]

I can't seem to get mage characters off the ground in Oblivion. It's just so hard compared to warriors. (Personally I don't care for thieves much but it could be fun I guess?)

Another one: all my sads are way minor compared to many others in this thread. I also feel like I just come in here and dump my feelings on the ground, instead of discussing and helping others in the thread. I don't know, it just feels selfish to always talk about me. Maybe I should take a break from these threads.

[kaijyuu]

It's hard for me to articulate, as it's something I'm still grasping, but yeah, I suppose it's because it runs against my long held views of how relationships worked. It's another aspect to society that muddles my understanding of how affection and intimacy operates, and in a weird way that angers me intensely.

I'm just a sorry idiot, I feel.

Ah, if you're still working it out, don't feel to bad. No one should judge you for an incomplete opinion.


I just feel that "cheating" being a bad thing is indicative of there being a sense of ownership in the relationship. "You're mine and no one else's," and etcetera. As if one party can tell the other what to do. I value respect and autonomy in relationships; neither side has authority over the other (we're past the era of patriarchies, I hope).

[Gunner-Chan]

Still, I find it interesting from a sociological standpoint that open relationships and the like appear to be quickly growing in popularity amongst the general populace, relatively speaking. A side effect of the ongoing death of marriage as a social institution, perhaps?

Not especially, I have two partners that both wouldn't mind both being married to me if possible. Though because legal issues aren't really gonna be important  for us three we're just gonna do the celebrations and Ill hand make some rings to cement the relationship in our own ways.

Another one: all my sads are way minor compared to many others in this thread. I also feel like I just come in here and dump my feelings on the ground, instead of discussing and helping others in the thread. I don't know, it just feels selfish to always talk about me. Maybe I should take a break from these threads.

Please don't think like that. Honestly just venting it out no matter how minor can help, so don't be afraid to no matter how unimportant it may seem. Though if you'd like to withhold it for a few moments for a discussion to finish that's a different thing.

[SirAaronIII]

Well, that's reassuring. I guess I'll just avoid bursting in.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Still, I find it interesting from a sociological standpoint that open relationships and the like appear to be quickly growing in popularity amongst the general populace, relatively speaking. A side effect of the ongoing death of marriage as a social institution, perhaps?

Not especially, I have two partners that both wouldn't mind both being married to me if possible. Though because legal issues aren't really gonna be important for us three we're just gonna do the celebrations and Ill hand make some rings to cement the relationship in our own ways.

That actually falls under what I meant. An astounding number of people these days don't care about becoming married in the eyes of the law. It is interesting to me how something that was pretty much mandatory for a social life 60 years ago is now casually dismissible by a meaningfully large number of people. That, and the slow but steady rise of the divorce rate over the legal marriage rate suggests a serious and radical change in the way romantic relationships are being perceived, at least in American society.

I don't exactly count myself as immune to this change either. I can see little good reason to ever become legally married, even should I hypothetically find myself in a long term relationship at some point in the future.

[Reudh]

The point of getting married is in my books, a way of affirming your love to your partner that shouts it out to the general populace.

[Sirus]

I thought the point of getting married was all those legal benefits.

[Gunner-Chan]

It kinda is, and I repeat. The only reason I'm not getting legally married is because simply put, the legal benefits wouldn't affect me or them in any tangible way because of other factors. Otherwise I'd be worrying and giving myself ulcers and heart attacks trying to decide who to marry on paper and who to leave as the one in spirit.

[Reudh]

Why not move to a place where polygamy is legal and marry both?

[penguinofhonor]

... where is polygamy legal?

[Reudh]

Recognised under civil law country wide:

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    Afghanistan
    Algeria
    Bahrain
    Bangladesh
    Brunei
    Burkina Faso
    Cameroon
    Chad
    CAR
    Comoros
    Congo
    Djibouti
    Egypt
    Ethiopia
    Gabon
    The Gambia
    India
    Indonesia
    Iran
    Iraq
    Jordan
    Kuwait
    Libya
    Malaysia
    Maldives
    Mali
    Mauritania
    Morocco
    Myanmar
    Niger
    Oman
    Pakistan
    Palestine
    Qatar
    Saudi Arabia
    Senegal
    Singapore
    Somalia
    South Africa
    Sri Lanka
    Sudan
    Syria
    Tanzania
    Togo
    Uganda
    UAE
    Yemen
    Zambia

Recognised partially:

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Eritrea
Nigeria
Recognised for welfare reasons, ie. married two wives in above country, came to these and applied for government help:

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Australia
UK.
Mind you, I wouldn't really want to live in most of those countries just for polygamy.

[Frumple]

... what about the other forms of legally recognized polyamory, though? I'm fairly sure -gyny is more legally acceptable than -andry or a multiple partner homosexual relationship (is there even a specialized word for that? Guess just -gamy is the better fit.)...

[Gunner-Chan]

Should I have mentioned both my partners are women?

[Frumple]

Yeah, that's something that's somewhat less legally recognized in the world sphere, heh (bleh?). Most of the legal structure for polyamorous relationships is strictly polygynous, unfortunately, s'far as I know. Hypocritical bullshit (or perhaps something along the lines of expediency re: simplifying inheritance and junk. Think True's mentioned something along those lines, before.), of course, but yeah.

Chances of that changing in our generation is... basically zero. Which is a bit of a minor downer, as always.

That said, there's probably some freakish legal shenanigans that'd make it possible to achieve legal equivalency to marriage (I'd make a WAG towards something involving adoption -- I vaguely remember some massive age discrepancy relationships pulling off something like that) for a polyamorous group in a first world country, but it's probably more trouble (and perhaps worse than that, more expensive) than it's worth.

[Reudh]

Countries that allow Polygyny AND same sex marriage:

There's just one:

South Africa.