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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #44115 on: March 01, 2012, 04:41:45 pm »

I'm just waiting for someone to point at a corner case, where I can then promptly backpedal to say NORMAL people.

Well if people made out of pure hate are not normal people, how the hell do you get normal people who hate? D:
You can hate without being converted into a being of raw, living rage. Although it's certainly tempting to do the full matter->hate conversion.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #44116 on: March 01, 2012, 04:43:34 pm »

I'm just waiting for someone to point at a corner case, where I can then promptly backpedal to say NORMAL people.

Well if people made out of pure hate are not normal people, how the hell do you get normal people who hate? D:
You can hate without being converted into a being of raw, living rage. Although it's certainly tempting to do the full matter->hate conversion.

Cross breeding. It creates the pure hatred/normal hybrid.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #44117 on: March 01, 2012, 05:48:32 pm »

I'm just waiting for someone to point at a corner case, where I can then promptly backpedal to say NORMAL people.

Well if people made out of pure hate are not normal people, how the hell do you get normal people who hate? D:
You can hate without being converted into a being of raw, living rage. Although it's certainly tempting to do the full matter->hate conversion.

Cross breeding. It creates the pure hatred/normal hybrid.

Casual hate for the universe?

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #44118 on: March 01, 2012, 05:49:57 pm »

Pretty much how I feel, yeah.

Of course, she's my mom so she's not happy about it.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #44119 on: March 01, 2012, 06:38:31 pm »

I'm just waiting for someone to point at a corner case, where I can then promptly backpedal to say NORMAL people.

Well if people made out of pure hate are not normal people, how the hell do you get normal people who hate? D:
You can hate without being converted into a being of raw, living rage. Although it's certainly tempting to do the full matter->hate conversion.

Cross breeding. It creates the pure hatred/normal hybrid.

Casual hate for the universe?
I often get the feeling the universe is laughing about all kinds of stuff maniacally, sure. 

Casual hate: all the one night stands turn into holy acrimony
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #44120 on: March 01, 2012, 06:38:54 pm »

Yeah, I saw that situation with my wife's grandmother. My wife still says (without a trace of irony or guilt) that she stayed alive out of spite, just long enough to finish burning through all her money to make sure there was nothing left as an inheritance. It sounds incredibly bitter, but then you'd have to have known this woman...it's an entirely plausible theory.

We have an awkward societal situation where we have the technology to prolong someone's life by decades, but lack the maturity to recognize that in many cases we probably shouldn't:-\

At some point when I'm about 78, or perhaps when old and I feel myself going mentally, I fully intend to give a bullet a tour of my brain. :) This is my personal plan only.

I personally, as long as i'm compos mentis, want to live for a very long time. In my family, we often either suffer dementia at about 70-75 on one side, and others usually maintain completely sound minds until their death aged 90-95.
Out of my great-grandparents who lived/live and died during my lifetime:

One has severe senile dementia, age 89. First manifested in her 60s. Had a history of mental illness, and was in and out of institutions.
One remained entirely compos mentis until his death of a stroke age 92.
One is still alive, still has awareness and can enjoy life, age 92.
One was completely compos mentis until his death of mesothelioma age 80.
One was completely compos mentis until his death of lung cancer age 78.
One is still alive, completely compos mentis except is a little forgetful and sometimes lapses into her mater lingua.
The remaining two died in the 1960s, so I never met them.

I reckon I'm going to live a long time, but I agree with Truean- if I have no awareness, ie. Reudh is gone, then what is the point of living? You would be just a shell that lives in pain for the rest of its life.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #44121 on: March 01, 2012, 06:41:14 pm »

Casual hate: all the one night stands turn into holy acrimony
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #44122 on: March 01, 2012, 06:44:10 pm »

Somehow I made a Holocaust joke without thinking. That was terrible and now I feel like an evil terrible person. Seriously, just wrong.

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« Reply #44123 on: March 01, 2012, 06:44:28 pm »

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #44124 on: March 01, 2012, 06:58:27 pm »

Pretty much how I feel, yeah.

Of course, she's my mom so she's not happy about it.

I see she got a promotion?

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« Reply #44125 on: March 01, 2012, 07:25:34 pm »

I personally, as long as i'm compos mentis, want to live for a very long time. In my family, we often either suffer dementia at about 70-75 on one side, and others usually maintain completely sound minds until their death aged 90-95.

On both sides of my family:  Men and women live strong and healthy well into their 90s, where at some point they suddenly slow down and fade out in a period of less than a month.  The only exceptions are those who lived very unhealthy lifestyles.  However... all the men, without exception, develop horrible alzheimers somewhere in their mid-70s.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #44126 on: March 01, 2012, 07:41:59 pm »

Eat turmeric every day. Can't hurt your chances, even if the evidence behind it is really really preliminary. Besides, curry is fucking amazing. Win/win.
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Minsky then shut his eyes. “Why do you close your eyes?”, Sussman asked his teacher.
“So that the room will be empty.”
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #44127 on: March 01, 2012, 07:47:03 pm »

The most ancient (genealogically) relative I had alive at the time of my birth was my great-great grandmother. She died age 92 in 1994. She was blind and spoke only dutch: so shortly after I was born my mother wrote a letter in english, gave it to my aunt who translated it into dutch. My mother also sent a lock of my first haircut, which apparently brought tears to Oma Peters' eyes (I suppose the tangibility of the new generation made her feel very happy).

My most ancient relative I had alive (chronologically) during my lifetime lived to be 92. Several lived into their late 90s, though, in the generation previous.

But our family are usually (with the exception of the prevalent mental illness) very hardy indeed. My great-grandfather who died of a stroke last year age 92 had had the following serious injuries:

Malaria when he fought in Borneo
Dysentery when he fought in Borneo
Was a POW of the Japanese
Back home in Australia, had broken an ankle while building a house, splinted it up and kept working, causing a life long crippling injury
Multiple severe heart attacks, pacemaker insertion
Multiple strokes ranging from mild to severe.

Similarly, my swedish great-great-grandfather was similarly hardy. In WWI he suffered multiple invaliding wounds:

Firstly, he was sent home with dysentery.
Once he'd recovered, he rejoined service with the Australian army and after a year in combat had the top of his skull blown off by a mortar. He was in a coma for a week in a field hospital while they inserted a metal plate- abruptly after the anaesthesia had worn off he sat bolt upright and asked for a cigar, which stunned the surgeons as they thought he was a goner.
Once he'd recovered from having his skull blown to pieces and replaced with a metal plate, he went back into service and got shot in the knee. This was a crippling injury that rendered his military career over.
He died aged 97. He had smoked proper tobacco his whole life, and never had a day of illness.


It makes me sad that in some families people don't even bother learning their family's history. Most people I know don't bother to trace back further than grandparents.

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« Reply #44128 on: March 01, 2012, 07:54:30 pm »

Man, the only thing interesting about my family tree is that it's full to the brim with murderers, drug addicts, train robbers, and mafiosos.
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« Reply #44129 on: March 01, 2012, 08:15:43 pm »

My family tree is rather hard to trace because there's too many dotted lines two or three generations back.
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