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[Vector]

Basically, but you're being rather informal about the whole mess.

It's been years since I had to do a formal proof (in geometry my junior year of highschool).  Even in calculus it was just a matter of getting an answer to what was asked, never providing a formal proof for something.

Yeah, no worries.  I'm just the sort of person who gets paranoid about proof holes.

[lordnincompoop]

Oh yay programming discussion

I tried learning Python, but for some reason I found C++ much more legible. I could never read pseudocode.

[Vector]

Scheme <3

I was really good at programming, but the people just drove me nuts.  Guess I'm not going to take any more of those classes =/

[Solifuge]

I used to program crappy text-based RPGs on my graphing calculator when I should have been listening to lectures, and crappy jRPGs on my computer when I should have been doing my homework. I did end up "teaching" the QBasic class at my high school though, alongside one of the German Foreign Exchange Students. The teacher was the Cheerleading Coach, and though she was good with mathematics, she didn't know the first thing about programming. That was a really fun year.

And then, within the span of about 3 months, my younger brother surpassed everything I thought I knew about programming, and started making viruses that would lock me out of the computer, unless I won at an ASCII bowling minigame.

[Medicine Man]

I'm sad that Fallout Boy covered Walk (by Pantera)

A part of me just died...

I'm also sad that my computer has an infiltration (virus)

SONOFABIIIIIIIIIIITCH!!!

No more pr0nz for Medicine Man 

[ChairmanPoo]

I missed my hair cutting appointed time. Now it will be another day with hair longer than I want

[Realmfighter]

Next year in LA we are going to be debating philosophy and religion.

Well, thats going to be fun

I will sound like a god damn cartoon super villain.

[smigenboger]

I have an old copy of "C++ for Dummies" floating around here somewhere. That was a good intro book.

Yes yes yes, the dummies books are highly recommended for stuff like this. Also, you really shouldn't try starting with c++, c# is much more user friendly from what I've seen.

I found C++ For Dummies to be a poor book. They give you code and then you have to deconstruct it to tell what it's doing. It may explain what a FOR loop is, but it won't explain what the syntax does.

[Rose]

I found the C++ Beginner's Guide to be vary useful.

[Virex]

Next year in LA we are going to be debating philosophy and religion.

Well, thats going to be fun

I will sound like a god damn cartoon super villain.

The happy thread is a few spaces down. up.

[Mindmaker]

It isn't a conscious process, it's just natural.

That's the problem.
Not everyone can learn and be succesful at programming.

Such pretentious comments tend to irk me.

I would appreciate if you wouldn't call personal experience "pretentious".
I had to learn programming in my school.

C++, Visual Basic, HTML, Java, Turbo C or C# it didn't really matter.
Never got good at any of those and not due the lack of trying.
I just lack the mindset of a programmer.

I even tried to make a game with the XNA Game Studio and failed horribly after wasting dozens of hours of hours on it.
It didn't even suffice for the foundations.

[ChairmanPoo]

Oh, so it was self demeaning, not pretentious. My mistake.

(AKA: Anyone can do anything. It's just a matter of trying hard enough, for long enough. )

[Mindmaker]

Oh, so it was self demeaning, not pretentious. My mistake.

(AKA: Anyone can do anything. It's just a matter of trying hard enough, for long enough. )

I'm not in the mood for getting trolled today, so yes lets leave it at "self demeaning" and me not trying hard enough, if it makes you happy.

[ChairmanPoo]

It doesn't make me happy. I find it annoying that you threw at that guy who was trying to start programming the "yo ho ho not everyone has the mettle, young one!". If you don't want to keep at it, it's your own business, but don't discourage people who are actually trying with tales on how hard it is.

[ILikePie]

And then, within the span of about 3 months, my younger brother surpassed everything I thought I knew about programming, and started making viruses that would lock me out of the computer, unless I won at an ASCII bowling minigame.

That is awesome. I really wish I could do stuff like that, instead, I'm stuck with stuff like creating bitmaps and wav files.

Also, Scheme is awesome, heck any lisp-like language is great. It's nice to see something different among the various oop languages.