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[Andir]

I can't see minecraft hitting some limit on the xbox hardware anytime soon.

Besides the 600MB+ memory footprint on a 512MB system... considering part of that 512 is shared with the video card?  And that's not counting the virtual memory that it's using right now on my system....

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PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND           
20   0 1878m 620m  18m S   42 15.9   2:20.67 java              
This is after 2 minutes of running.

[freeformschooler]

And wouldn't they have to port Minecraft over to C# first? After all, the entire thing's in Java.

[Felius]

Wait, what the hell? Why in the freaking hell does the XBOX 360 only have 512MBs of RAM? Is not like RAM is expensive.

[Andir]

There is supposedly the capability to run JVM apps on .NET the same way Wine runs DirectX on OpenGL, except it may be a bit faster than relative Wine since Java is open... but I don't know if they are going that way or what they plan on doing.  It doesn't have to be in C# though.

[breadbocks]

The only real viable way to have a rts in minecraft is to steal Creeps and weirdo's unit system, and make it so you integrate the mining/crafting better, like being able to craft robots and shit.

[dragnar]

Wait, what the hell? Why in the freaking hell does the XBOX 360 only have 512MBs of RAM? Is not like RAM is expensive.

Game systems tend to look rather pathetic when you compare their specs to most PCs. Their advantage is standardization, making things tend to work more smoothly on them. The point of a game system was NEVER to outperform a normal computer.

[Thump]

Wait, what the hell? Why in the freaking hell does the XBOX 360 only have 512MBs of RAM? Is not like RAM is expensive.

Game systems tend to look rather pathetic when you compare their specs to most PCs. Their advantage is standardization, making things tend to work more smoothly on them. The point of a game system was NEVER to outperform a normal computer.

Keep in mind that 512MB of DDR2 RAM was ~$70-$100 back in 2005... I don't know how much 512MB of GDDR3 RAM cost though. And the reason they don't add more RAM to newer versions is that if they start making 360 games that use a new standard (say, 1GB or 2GB of RAM) then they won't run on the older 360's, which basically means you're entering another 'generation' of XBox. (And it'll SERIOUSLY piss off a lot of the owners of the older 360 models)

(This post is mainly towards Felius, just quoted dragnar for continuity)

[Felius]

Wait, what the hell? Why in the freaking hell does the XBOX 360 only have 512MBs of RAM? Is not like RAM is expensive.

Game systems tend to look rather pathetic when you compare their specs to most PCs. Their advantage is standardization, making things tend to work more smoothly on them. The point of a game system was NEVER to outperform a normal computer.

Keep in mind that 512MB of DDR2 RAM was ~$70-$100 back in 2005... I don't know how much 512MB of GDDR3 RAM cost though. And the reason they don't add more RAM to newer versions is that if they start making 360 games that use a new standard (say, 1GB or 2GB of RAM) then they won't run on the older 360's, which basically means you're entering another 'generation' of XBox. (And it'll SERIOUSLY piss off a lot of the owners of the older 360 models)

(This post is mainly towards Felius, just quoted dragnar for continuity)

I sometimes forget that current gen consoles are actually pretty old... Still, a whole GB of RAM might not be much more expensive than 512MB, as in a single module, specially considering that they won't be paying retail price for the RAM...

[Thump]

Wait, what the hell? Why in the freaking hell does the XBOX 360 only have 512MBs of RAM? Is not like RAM is expensive.

Game systems tend to look rather pathetic when you compare their specs to most PCs. Their advantage is standardization, making things tend to work more smoothly on them. The point of a game system was NEVER to outperform a normal computer.

Keep in mind that 512MB of DDR2 RAM was ~$70-$100 back in 2005... I don't know how much 512MB of GDDR3 RAM cost though. And the reason they don't add more RAM to newer versions is that if they start making 360 games that use a new standard (say, 1GB or 2GB of RAM) then they won't run on the older 360's, which basically means you're entering another 'generation' of XBox. (And it'll SERIOUSLY piss off a lot of the owners of the older 360 models)

(This post is mainly towards Felius, just quoted dragnar for continuity)

I sometimes forget that current gen consoles are actually pretty old... Still, a whole GB of RAM might not be much more expensive than 512MB, as in a single module, specially considering that they won't be paying retail price for the RAM...

When it was released, they were already taking a 'loss' on the hardware of the consoles. They made up the money (initially) in game royalties.

Source - my own memory, a spot of googling came up with this: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6140383/microsoft-taking-126-hit-per-xbox-360

So going from 512 to 1024 might have only been... I don't know, let's be conservative and say $15. They sold *ROUGHLY* 5 million units in the first year. That's 75m in extra losses - at a time when they weren't sure whether the 360 would be a success or if the system would ever become profitable on its own (as manufacturing costs came down). So they played it safe, and I think that most game developers do an admirable job with the 512MB limit placed on them.

[breadbocks]

My my, these videos are neat.

[ductape]

My my, these videos are neat.

OCD at it's finest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfReRe1fzPo&feature=relmfu

[breadbocks]

Just found an AMAZING mod. The Better Than Wolves mod. Lots of neat doodads. Including a spiffy little companion thingie that will always love you.

For the nonbelievers, TheModSpotlight review.

[darius]

Creature dispenser:



Turns items into creatures.

[Dutchling]

My my, these videos are neat.

what the hell are German ads doing in my interweb now

[Taco Dan]

So every time I get past the login screen, I suddenly crash. I also get an error message saying that Java has stopped working. Not sure what it is, might just be my computer being old and broken. I'm leaning towards the latter because reinstalling Java didn't help. I've had this game for a year now and the most it's ever done is black screen on me, so I don't know what's going on. Anyone else get this recently?