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[Darvi]

How the fuck did this post get in this thread?

[Niveras]

But APIs don't just happen.  They have to be specified, formalized, documented, published, maintained.  And, most notably, each and every part of Minecraft that a modder might possibly want to hook into would need to have its own agreement.  Specifications, documentation, callbacks or hooks, code verification, sandboxing… it would be a lot of work.  A lot of work.  And it would be never ending.  There would always be some code, somewhere, that a modder might be interested in tweaking.

This is actually why I'm somewhat against there being any kind of API. While having an API opens up modding to more people (since it would become 'officially supported' rather than simply not-fighting-over-it-happening that's going on now), there will always be limits in what the API can access. Will you have access to the AI code, allowing entirely new creatures working in strange ways, or largely self-sufficient, functional villages? Would you be able to add new resources - not just new items from new blocks, but for example IndustrialCraft's method of tracking power? Any API that's eventually released could probably do 90% of what anyone wants out of it, but it's always that last 10% that's the most impressive but would no longer be possible.

[breadbocks]

I would be satisfied with a mod folder that works like the texturepack folder. You drop a .zip in there, with the changes to the classes, and the game incorporates the changes.

[ein]

A lot of mods already do that with Modloader.

[Biag]

Yeah, but it'd be nice to not have to crack open the .jar to do it. And to have the game play nice with mods.

[Jay]

Yeah, but it'd be nice to not have to crack open the .jar to do it. And to have the game play nice with mods.

I don't trust Notch to make a decent API, if he were to even attempt it.

No, just let the modders complete the API on a version-by-version basis, as they have been doing.
They're close to solving the sprite limit, and -most- of the other issues, apart from modifying the same classes, have been solved already (except the 32,000 ID limit, but that would take quite a bit of rejiggering).

As far as not cracking open the JAR: We've mentioned this already.  For the most part, once you've installed ModLoader, it can just load mods as zips from a certain directory in your install.

[alway]

Yep, install ModLoader, then run Minecraft. After it is run once, a 'mods' folder will appear in the .minecraft folder into which you can drop the zip files for any mod compatible with it.

[darius]

Not sure if you people noticed this but buildcraft is now multiplayer-able.

[Sergius]

More than a modding API, I would like to see Notch change Minecraft so that it can propagate changes somehow server-side to client-side. That way, playing a modded server (with GUI and new blocks, for example) won't require patching client-side. Some sort of UO "gump" system for the UIs, pull textures from the web, etc. The mechanics already work (obviously, since the server is doing all the work) you simply can't access them or see them.

[0x517A5D]

More than a modding API, I would like to see Notch change Minecraft so that it can propagate changes somehow server-side to client-side. That way, playing a modded server (with GUI and new blocks, for example) won't require patching client-side. Some sort of UO "gump" system for the UIs, pull textures from the web, etc. The mechanics already work (obviously, since the server is doing all the work) you simply can't access them or see them.

That actually could be done.  Since the frontend is the program that tells the main program which server to contact, the frontend could also download packages from the server and install them into the main program before starting it.

Security would be a nightmare.  To the point that I would never go online for fear of having malicious code autoinstalled.

As such, vanilla Minecraft isn't ever going to get the capability.

[Sergius]

More than a modding API, I would like to see Notch change Minecraft so that it can propagate changes somehow server-side to client-side. That way, playing a modded server (with GUI and new blocks, for example) won't require patching client-side. Some sort of UO "gump" system for the UIs, pull textures from the web, etc. The mechanics already work (obviously, since the server is doing all the work) you simply can't access them or see them.

That actually could be done.  Since the frontend is the program that tells the main program which server to contact, the frontend could also download packages from the server and install them into the main program before starting it.

Security would be a nightmare.  To the point that I would never go online for fear of having malicious code autoinstalled.

Only if you completely misunderstand my post.

I'm not talking about having code in your computer autoinstalled or your jars automodded. I'm talking about the Client taking its GUI data from whatever server it is connected to (just a dumb dialog, no code at all, simply GUI elements like the graphics, the slots where things go, the progress bar thingies, etc), meaning that UIs are built SERVER-SIDE and displayed on your screen. I'm talking about your client taking PNGs or GIFs or whatever from the server/other HTTP address, then displaying the new blocks even if your jars aren't changed. I'm talking about the client sending human-interface messages to the server, then waiting for the result, even if the client doesn't know what it does.

[GaxkangtheUnbound]

In other news, Minecraft is officially announced for Xbox360 Kinect.

[PsyberianHusky]

In other news, Minecraft is officially announced for Xbox360 Kinect.

Wait with support for connect, or connect dependent?

[GaxkangtheUnbound]

In other news, Minecraft is officially announced for Xbox360 Kinect.

Wait with support for connect, or connect dependent?

Kinect dependent, I would think.

[TolyK]

In other news, Minecraft is officially announced for Xbox360 Kinect.

o.0

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so, after installing modloader, I just need to put modloader-based mods in the mods directory?
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