Yay, I rerailed the thread.
A bad debate is when someone doesn't make any sense. Like my favorite nonsense argument from this thread is that God either exists or he doesn't. Thus there is a 50% chance of god existing. 50% would be rounded to 1, meaning that by default God does exist.
I don't think anyone has ever made this argument. Partly because it seems to reach a pro-agnostic position then has an atheist conclusion?
You mean a theist conclusion. Lol, I'm sure I've seen it in this thread, but I sure won't go back and look for it.
Also, and I know someone will yell at me about this, going against your own religion in a hypocritical way happens all the freaking time. IE 'Lets kill all the musliems in the holy lands!' 'But the bible says not to kill' 'Who cares? They are heathens! CRUSADE!'
Not really... organized religion has a great way of twisting around 'logic'. The bible says not to kill.... but not to kill because ___ (it makes us look bad, life is sacred, they may kill us back, etc). Then they just take one of these reasons and twist it around. So if they concluded that you can't kill because life is sacred, they find a way of justifying that heathen lives are not sacred.
Or like with modern muslim terrorist attacks, they twisted around word where the qurans says that you are required to fight in defense. A good offense is the best defense. Thus, a good offense is mandatory.
All abuses of logic, but the common religious follower is afraid of questioning a religious authority.
I mean, if God isn't omniscient, what's the use of prayer?
Here is a better question: if God is omniscient, what's the use of prayer?
I suppose it's pretty much a way to cash in on the brownie points you have. The more good things you do, the more prayers are answered. Or it's just to make you feel a lot better, which is a major reason why people get into religion in the first place. Nobody wants to worship a God who won't help them. Very pious people are either scared of God or believe that he's going to help them when they're in trouble later.
Well someone in that sci-fi link I posted put it best 'These humans worship a god who has slaughtered millions on his own, killed children, and wants them to go to war and kill other humans, and yet they consiter this god kind and benevilant'
The idea is that the highest moral lies in the afterlife, not in life. So death, etc, is not an evil, unless it is done in murder. Something about only God having the right to take away life, and that humans don't have the ability to judge whose life is worth taking.