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[Vorthon]

Just cleared out the Orcish Mines (I guess? The stairs are confusing in it and I lack a wand of digging, so I can't find any sections I might've missed without randomly 'porting about via scroll), found an entrance to the Elven Halls. Considering delving into 'em, but I thought I'd get some second opinions from you guys. Here's where I am statwise and such:

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Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.13.1 (tiles) character file.

Nambul the Basher (Gargoyle Berserker)             Turns: 18950, Time: 01:55:55

HP  81/81        AC 31     Str 37      XL: 13   Next: 81%
MP   6/6         EV 10     Int  7      God: Trog [*****.]
Gold 331         SH  0     Dex 12      Spells:  0 memorised, 18 levels left

Res.Fire  : . . .   See Invis. : .   h - +4,+7 dwarf dire flail (antimagic)
Res.Cold  : + . .   Warding    : .   n - +2 orc plate armour {rC+}
Life Prot.: + . .   Conserve   : .   (no shield)
Res.Poison: +       Res.Corr.  : .   v - +0 helmet "Aveacier" {Str+3 Dex+3 Acc+4}
Res.Elec. : +       Clarity    : .   Q - +0 cloak "Xoapliaj" {Str+3}
Sust.Abil.: . .     Spirit.Shd : .   G - +0 pair of gloves
Res.Mut.  : .       Stasis     : .   (no boots)
Res.Rott. : +       Flight     : .   (no amulet)
Saprovore : . . .                    y - +4 ring of strength
                                     S - +1 ring of protection

@: somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments, extremely unstealthy
A: fangs 1, talons 2, life protection 1, electricity resistance, slow metabolism
1, unbreathing, petrification resistance, AC +9
a: Burn Spellbooks, Berserk, Trog's Hand, Brothers in Arms, Renounce Religion


You are on level 12 of the Dungeon.
You worship Trog.
Trog is extremely pleased with you.
You are not hungry.

You have visited 2 branches of the dungeon, and seen 16 of its levels.
You have also visited: Sewer.

You have collected 2122 gold pieces.
You have spent 1811 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand weapons
 c - a +1,+2 orcish dagger of returning
 h - a +4,+7 dwarven anti-magic dire flail (weapon)
 t - a +1,+3 flail of protection
 Z - a +1,+1 great mace of protection
Missiles
 m - 23 darts (quivered)
 Y - 7 javelins of returning
Armour
 d - a +0 mottled dragon armour
 n - a +2 orcish plate armour of cold resistance (worn)
 q - a +1 plate armour of magic resistance
 v - the +0 helmet "Aveacier" (worn) {Str+3 Dex+3 Acc+4}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
   It affects your dexterity (+3).
   It affects your accuracy (+4).
 G - a +0 pair of gloves (worn)
 Q - the +0 cloak "Xoapliaj" (worn) {Str+3}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 8 of the Dungeon)   
   
   It affects your strength (+3).
Magical devices
 g - a wand of enslavement
 u - a wand of polymorph {zapped: 9}
 w - a wand of confusion {zapped: 4}
 F - a wand of disintegration (0)
 K - a wand of slowing {zapped: 2}
 O - a wand of cold {zapped: 2}
 R - a wand of enslavement (22)
Comestibles
 l - 2 chokos
 p - a pear
 H - 3 strawberries
Scrolls
 b - 2 scrolls of identify
 k - 8 scrolls of fog
 E - 2 scrolls of blinking
Jewellery
 f - a cursed ring of sustain abilities
 i - an uncursed ring of positive energy
 r - an uncursed ring of protection from fire
 y - a +4 ring of strength (right hand)
 z - an uncursed ring of see invisible
 S - a +1 ring of protection (left hand)
Potions
 a - a potion of speed
 j - 7 potions of curing
 o - 2 potions of restore abilities
 x - 2 potions of might
 A - 3 potions of brilliance
 B - 4 potions of magic
 P - 2 potions of cure mutation
 T - a potion of invisibility
 V - a potion of poison
 X - a potion of porridge
Miscellaneous
 e - a bottled efreet


   Skills:
 + Level 11.1 Fighting
 + Level 14.2 Maces & Flails
 + Level 3.8 Throwing
 + Level 10.2 Armour
 + Level 10.2 Dodging
 - Level 4.4 Stealth
 + Level 3.8 Unarmed Combat
 + Level 3.1 Spellcasting
   Level 2.7 Transmutations
 + Level 2.3 Evocations


You have 18 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.

Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (12/27)            Temple (0/1) D:6             Orc (4/4) D:11
    Elf (0/3) Orc:3          Lair (0/8) D:8         

Altars:
Ashenzari
Okawaru
Trog
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
the Shining One
Beogh

Shops:
D:6 *   D:8 [   D:10 !   D:11 ==[+   Orc:1 (   Orc:2 ?   Orc:4 +[=/%


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are resistant to torment.
You are immune to poison.
Your stone body is very resilient (AC +9).
You have very sharp teeth.
You have razor-sharp toenails.
You resist negative energy.
You are resistant to electric shocks.
You have a slow metabolism.
You can survive without breathing.
You are immune to petrification.


Message History

You climb downwards.
Found a scroll of enchant weapon I.
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
A crimson imp comes into view.
The crimson imp shouts!
The crimson imp moves out of view.
You see here a scroll of enchant weapon I.
s - a scroll of enchant weapon I
Read which item? (? for menu, Esc to quit)
As you read the scroll of enchant weapon I, it crumbles to dust.
Your +3,+7 dwarven anti-magic dire flail glows green for a moment.
You puncture the crimson imp! Your kick misses the crimson imp. You bite the crimson imp.
The crimson imp is almost dead.
The crimson imp hits you but does no damage.
You impale the crimson imp!!
You kill the crimson imp!
Trog accepts your kill.
Found a stone staircase leading down.
There is a stone staircase leading down here.
No item to drop.

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There are no monsters in sight!

Vanquished Creatures
  Donald (Orc:4)
  Gastronok (D:10)
  A stone giant (Orc:4)
  A hydra (D:11)
  Fannar (D:11)
  Josephine (Orc:2)
  Nessos (Orc:3)
  An ogre mage (Orc:4)
  Urug (D:10)
  An orc high priest (Orc:4)
  Erolcha (D:8)
  Pikel (D:5)
  2 cyclopes (D:11)
  2 hill giants
  5 orc knights
  4 orc sorcerers
  Maurice (D:8)
  The ghost of Nambul the Shield-Bearer, an experienced MiFi (D:5)
  Psyche (D:8)
  An item mimic (Orc:3)
  9 trolls
  Grinder (D:3)
  A two-headed ogre (D:7)
  Prince Ribbit (D:6)
  A trapdoor spider (D:8)
  A water elemental (D:11)
  Eustachio (D:8)
  5 yaks (D:9)
  2 hippogriffs
  A hungry ghost (D:11)
  A steam dragon (D:8)
  Edmund (D:4)
  4 manticores
  2 ice beasts
  31 orc warriors
  10 ogres
  A yellow wasp (D:11)
  A sky beast (D:10)
  A giant goldfish (D:11)
  A phantom (D:7)
  A warg (Orc:2)
  5 centaurs
  Duvessa (D:5)
  A komodo dragon zombie (D:11)
  12 giant frogs
  A troll zombie (D:11)
  9 killer bees
  5 electric eels (D:11)
  A jellyfish (D:11)
  4 wights (D:7)
  Dowan (D:5)
  2 goliath beetles
  5 crimson imps
  A quasit (D:11)
  25 orc wizards
  A jelly (D:6)
  A soldier ant zombie (D:10)
  24 orc priests
  A big fish (D:5)
  10 hounds
  4 scorpions
  2 iguanas
  4 sheep (D:11)
  5 worker ants
  Ijyb (D:4)
  A hound skeleton (D:6)
  A mummy (D:10)
  5 gnolls
  16 adders
  A giant mite (D:8)
  2 shadow imps (D:8)
  A giant centipede (D:11)
  2 worms
  A giant centipede zombie (D:8)
  18 grey rats (Sewer)
  2 giant eyeballs
  2 giant geckos
  2 oozes
  192 orcs
  17 bats
  3 giant cockroaches
  16 hobgoblins
  11 jackals
  9 quokkas
  13 ball pythons
  10 giant newts
  A giant spore (D:8)
  17 goblins
  2 goblin skeletons
  12 kobolds
  2 kobold zombies (D:6)
  2 orc simulacra (Orc:3)
  2 orc skeletons (Orc:3)
  2 orc zombies (Orc:3)
  A quokka skeleton (D:10)
  A quokka zombie (D:6)
  19 rats
  2 ballistomycetes (D:8)
  2 plants
622 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  2 orc warlords (Orc:4)
  A stone giant (Orc:4)
  2 orc high priests (Orc:4)
  The ghost of Phazir the Cleaver, a powerful DsFi of Trog (Orc:4)
  3 orc sorcerers (Orc:4)
  4 orc knights (Orc:4)
  A sixfirhy (Orc:4)
  An orange demon (Orc:4)
  A hellwing (Orc:4)
  A blue devil (Orc:4)
  8 orc warriors
  An ogre (Orc:2)
  A warg (Orc:4)
  2 yak skeletons (Orc:4)
  4 orc priests (Orc:4)
  2 orc wizards (Orc:4)
  4 orc zombies (Orc:4)
  10 orcs
  A goblin (Orc:4)
  A hobgoblin (D:11)
  9 rat skeletons (Orc:4)
60 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  A hill giant (Orc:4)
  3 trolls (Orc:4)
  A grizzly bear (Orc:4)
  A black bear (Orc:4)
  2 ogres (Orc:4)
  2 orc wizards
  2 orcs
  2 rat skeletons (Orc:4)
  A fungus (D:10)
15 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 697 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
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     0 | D:1      | Nambul, the Gargoyle Berserker, began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 0/0
    79 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 1/1
   357 | D:1      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 24/24 MP: 2/2
   383 | D:1      | Acquired Trog's second power
   623 | D:2      | Reached skill level 4 in Fighting
  1135 | D:2      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 27/29 MP: 3/3
  1672 | D:3      | Noticed Grinder
  1694 | D:3      | Paralysed by Grinder for 7 turns
  1704 | D:3      | Killed Grinder
  1704 | D:3      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  1704 | D:3      | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
  1704 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 9/33 MP: 4/4
  1704 | D:3      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 10/39 MP: 5/5
  2223 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [potion of mutation]
  2223 | D:3      | Gained mutation: Your vision is a little blurry. [potion of mutation]
  2223 | D:3      | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of mutation]
  2224 | D:3      | Lost mutation: You have a pair of small horns on your head. [potion of mutation]
  2224 | D:3      | Gained mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [potion of mutation]
  2225 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You can spit poison. [potion of mutation]
  2225 | D:3      | Gained mutation: You digest meat inefficiently. [potion of mutation]
  2268 | D:3      | Reached skill level 6 in Fighting
  2268 | D:3      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  2268 | D:3      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 42/44 MP: 2/9
  2501 | D:4      | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
  2960 | D:4      | Noticed Edmund
  2979 | D:4      | Killed Edmund
  2980 | D:4      | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog.
  3112 | D:4      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 50/50 MP: 11/11
  3162 | D:4      | Noticed Ijyb
  3179 | D:4      | Killed Ijyb
  3430 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3430 | D:5      | Noticed Nambul's ghost (experienced MiFi)
  3454 | D:5      | Noticed Duvessa
  3454 | D:5      | Noticed Dowan
  3678 | D:5      | Killed Nambul's ghost
  3678 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
  3723 | D:5      | Acquired Trog's first power
  3822 | D:5      | Found a glowing drain.
  3837 | Sewer    | Entered a sewer
  4747 | D:5      | Killed Duvessa
  4747 | D:5      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/55 MP: 13/13
  4771 | D:5      | Killed Dowan
  4796 | D:5      | Noticed Pikel
  4802 | D:5      | Killed Pikel
  5339 | D:6      | Noticed Prince Ribbit
  5352 | D:6      | Killed Prince Ribbit
  5590 | D:6      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  5616 | D:6      | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  5720 | D:6      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  5927 | D:6      | Found Safoefuo's General Store.
  5937 | D:6      | Acquired Trog's third power
  6001 | D:6      | Paralysed by a potion of paralysis for 7 turns
  6124 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6126 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6142 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6142 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6142 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6142 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6142 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6170 | D:7      | Found a shimmering altar of Xom.
  6206 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 50/60 MP: 14/14
  7035 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  7185 | D:8      | Noticed Eustachio
  7193 | D:8      | Killed Eustachio
  7214 | D:8      | Noticed Psyche
  7224 | D:8      | Killed Psyche
  7225 | D:8      | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
  7388 | D:8      | Noticed Erolcha
  7398 | D:8      | Killed Erolcha
  7398 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  7542 | D:8      | Found Sheorey's Armour Shoppe.
  7551 | D:8      | Bought the +0 cloak "Xoapliaj" {Str+3} for 211 gold pieces
  7551 | D:8      | Bought the cursed -1 helmet of Courage {rF+ Str-2 Acc-2} for 25 gold pieces
  7585 | D:8      | Noticed Maurice
  7650 | D:8      | Killed Maurice
  7898 | D:9      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  7908 | D:9      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  8300 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 66/66 MP: 16/16
  8524 | D:10     | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon
  8601 | D:10     | Found Soxeda's Distillery.
  8734 | D:10     | Noticed Urug
  8750 | D:10     | Killed Urug
  8954 | D:10     | Noticed a hill giant
  8974 | D:10     | Found a shattered altar of Ashenzari.
  8979 | D:10     | Saw a vision of the Swamp and the Spider Nest.
  8979 | D:10     | Noticed an alligator
  9026 | D:10     | Received a gift from Trog
  9144 | D:10     | Killed a hill giant
  9151 | D:10     | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  9554 | D:10     | Noticed Gastronok
  9569 | D:10     | Killed Gastronok
  9839 | D:11     | Noticed a four-headed hydra
  9851 | D:11     | Killed a four-headed hydra
 10068 | D:11     | Noticed a hill giant
 10084 | D:11     | Killed a hill giant
 10482 | D:8      | Bought a +0 chain mail for 115 gold pieces
 10781 | D:11     | Reached XP level 12. HP: 60/73 MP: 17/17
 10784 | D:11     | Found Tromeyc's Jewellery Boutique.
 10970 | D:11     | Found Voiron's Jewellery Boutique.
 11128 | D:11     | Found Saalin's Book Emporium.
 11139 | D:11     | Got a shimmering chain mail
 11153 | D:11     | Identified the cursed -4 chain mail "Mnawnesiu" {Str-1 Int+3 Acc+5} (You took it off an orc on level 11 of the Dungeon)
 11295 | D:11     | Found Gokkoilo's Armour Boutique.
 11366 | D:11     | Received a gift from Trog
 11375 | D:11     | Noticed an orc knight
 11382 | D:11     | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 11383 | D:11     | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
 11413 | D:11     | Killed an orc knight
 11413 | D:11     | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
 11570 | D:11     | Noticed Fannar
 11581 | D:11     | Killed Fannar
 11845 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 12079 | Orc:2    | Found Schyxt's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 12161 | Orc:3    | Noticed Nessos
 12444 | Orc:3    | Noticed Josephine
 12527 | Orc:2    | Killed Josephine
 12847 | Orc:3    | Killed Nessos
 13227 | Orc:3    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 13269 | Orc:3    | Received a gift from Trog
 13647 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 13653 | D:8      | Bought a +0 mottled dragon hide for 305 gold pieces
 14019 | Orc:4    | Entered Level 4 of the Orcish Mines
 14019 | Orc:4    | Found Phoalir's Food Shop.
 14026 | Orc:4    | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
 14026 | Orc:4    | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
 14026 | Orc:4    | Bought a bread ration for 48 gold pieces
 14028 | Orc:4    | Noticed Donald
 14047 | Orc:4    | Killed Donald
 14047 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
 14518 | Orc:4    | HP: 1/75 [orc knight/glowing orcish glaive (12)]
 15158 | Orc:4    | Noticed a stone giant
 15177 | Orc:4    | Killed a stone giant
 15177 | Orc:4    | Reached XP level 13. HP: 36/80 MP: 6/18
 15401 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc high priest
 15412 | Orc:4    | Killed an orc high priest
 15439 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc high priest
 15441 | Orc:4    | Killed an orc high priest
 15444 | Orc:4    | Noticed Phazir's ghost (powerful DsFi)
 15451 | Orc:4    | Killed Phazir's ghost
 15458 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc high priest
 15470 | Orc:4    | Killed an orc high priest
 15470 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging
 15490 | Orc:4    | Found Styusef's Magical Wand Boutique.
 15491 | Orc:4    | Found Otuesu Wurch's Jewellery Shoppe.
 15492 | Orc:4    | Found Fyero's Antique Armour Boutique.
 15493 | Orc:4    | Found Olaps' Book Shoppe.
 15504 | Orc:4    | Bought a distressingly furry helmet for 195 gold pieces
 15510 | Orc:4    | Bought a +4 ring of strength for 459 gold pieces
 15513 | Orc:4    | Identified the cursed +0 helmet "Aveacier" {Str+3 Dex+3 Acc+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Orcish Mines)
 15562 | Orc:4    | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
 15818 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc warlord
 15895 | Orc:4    | Noticed an ogre mage
 15966 | Orc:4    | Killed an ogre mage
 15969 | Orc:4    | Lost mutation: Your vision is a little blurry. [potion of cure mutation]
 15969 | Orc:4    | Lost mutation: Your magical capacity is low (-10% MP). [potion of cure mutation]
 15969 | Orc:4    | Lost mutation: You can spit poison. [potion of cure mutation]
 15969 | Orc:4    | Lost mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [potion of cure mutation]
 15969 | Orc:4    | Lost mutation: You digest meat inefficiently. [potion of cure mutation]
 16680 | Orc:4    | Noticed an orc warlord
 16685 | Orc:4    | Killed an orc warlord
 16685 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
 17507 | Orc:4    | Killed an orc warlord
 17572 | Orc:4    | Noticed a stone giant
 17581 | Orc:4    | Killed a stone giant
 17581 | Orc:4    | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 18051 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces
 18051 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of recharging for 71 gold pieces
 18051 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of enchant weapon III for 260 gold pieces
 18206 | Orc:1    | Paralysed by an orc sorcerer for 5 turns
 18230 | Orc:1    | Found Briusm's Antique Weapon Emporium.


Action                   |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 || total
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Melee: Mace              |    73 |    66 |       |       |       ||   139
       Flail             |       |    19 |   371 |   517 |       ||   907
       Dire flail        |       |       |       |   259 |   271 ||   530
Throw: Javelin           |       |       |       |     2 |       ||     2
       Dart              |       |       |       |       |     3 ||     3
Invok: Berserk           |     2 |     2 |    11 |    25 |     7 ||    47
       Burn Spellbooks   |       |       |       |     3 |       ||     3
       Brothers in Arms  |       |       |       |     3 |    19 ||    22
Evoke: Wand              |       |       |     2 |    17 |    25 ||    44
  Use: Scroll            |     6 |       |     7 |    18 |    12 ||    43
       Potion            |       |     7 |     7 |     5 |     1 ||    20
 Stab: Sleeping          |       |       |     2 |     1 |       ||     3


[Robsoie]

Personnally i wouldn't recommend you to go that soon (level 13) into Elven Halls, or at least if you want to go, make sure you're not going for the bottom floor of it, what's down there can easily kill a character that isn't prepared and leveled enough (the magic resistance you only have on "somewhat resistant to hostile enchantments" is going to get you banished to the Abyss by some of the elven casters if you go) .

You should try to get to Lair instead and clear it, then maybe a branch or two before thinking about clearing Elven Halls (on my gargoyle recent win i didn't even bothered going there at that point)

[Mr Space Cat]

Crossposting from the own thread. This was pretty cool.

Spoiler: playing a halfling assassin on Trunk 0.14 (click to show/hide)

After awakening a pack of water mocassins and adders clustered around some kind of a snakeskin shop, I read a scroll of teleport and ran. Teleport triggers, and drops me smack in the middle of the kobold Pikel and a bunch of slaves. With my health at only 10 points, I am not at all in a state to take them all on. I start running for a corridor, taking out my blowgun and quivering some needles of frenzy as I do so.

I shoot one needle at a slave, which sends him into a berserk rage. He attacks Pikel and buys me some time to retreat further away. I reach the corridor, and shoot another needle of frenzy at the slave right behind me. He also goes berserk and turns on his fellow slaves and Pikel, who are still fighting each other right behind me.

So, there's several enemies clustered together in a tight space who are fighting one another. The way to me is blocked by a berserk slave. What to do now?

I read a scroll of immolation and high-tail it out of there. Several turns later as I turn a corner, "You hear an explosion!x9 You feel a bit more experienced."

I go back around the corner to see a huge fire filling the entire room where Pikel and his slaves had been, with scattered chunks of meat and blood decorating the walls. I probably completely blew my cover and woke everything on the level, but I'm alive, so that's kinda nice.

It's always nice to barely scrape through a bad spot with the equipment you just so happened to have from the RNG. I don't always think tactically in Crawl, but when I do, I usually don't die...hopefully.

[Vorthon]

So. Somehow lagged out and got murderated by a Titanic Slime Creature. Still, it was a good run. Two runes, several artifacts, a few different magic items of a miscellaneous nature, etc.

Fakedit: Apparently trying to post the log for the run lags out any attempt to post. e_e

[tompliss]

Were those slime in the Slime pit ?
It's usually not advised to go there if not really prepared. For most 3-runes games (what you may be aiming for, while you haven't won one), you really don't have to go there. Except if you had special loot (rCorr and conservation items, or wearing only artefacts), you should not even go in the first floor of it
Its rune is usually estimated clearly more dangerous than the ones from Vault or Abyss, and those aren't that easy either (but either one should be your third rune).

[Seriyu]

Dungeon crawl thread, I come to you with a set of questions.

Encumbrance penalty. Is it the same thing as evasion penalty? Does it still need triple the Encumbrance penalty in strength to negate any negative effects that can be negated? Has that changed? Is it worth investing in strength to negate negative effects if I want to be a heavy armor caster?

I've looked things up on the knowledge bot but it has math and all but the most basic math is a horror for me to deal with.

[Delta Foxtrot]

Hey my first victory was a 4-rune with slime
You definitely shouldn't go there without proper gear though.

Not that any gear in the world helps you if you start melee'ing titanic slimes.

[tompliss]

Encumbrance penalty. Is it the same thing as evasion penalty?

It is pretty much a clarification of the older Evasion penalty. It has similar effects to the EV penalty trippled (so you don't have to make the multiplication), and it clarifies that it has effects on spellcasting/stealth as well.

It was also re-balanced, so that Strength points above the Enc Penalty aren't useless. now, every ponit in strength lessen the penalty, but going from 20 to 21 have a lesser impact than going from 10 to 11. And the Enc Penalty is a estimation of how much it decreases (gaining  point in strength from the Enc to Enc+1 being the same on nearly all armors).

so yeah, you still need strength for an heavily armored caster, and if I have to give you an advice about how much, I would say something between 2/3*Enc and 1*Enc Strength.

[Seriyu]

Ohhhh it was 1x encumbrance, okay. That would explain why all the penalties seemed abnormally high.

1x - 3x strength for a heavy armor caster then, thanks!

[Vorthon]

Were those slime in the Slime pit ?
It's usually not advised to go there if not really prepared. For most 3-runes games (what you may be aiming for, while you haven't won one), you really don't have to go there. Except if you had special loot (rCorr and conservation items, or wearing only artefacts), you should not even go in the first floor of it
Its rune is usually estimated clearly more dangerous than the ones from Vault or Abyss, and those aren't that easy either (but either one should be your third rune).

Actually, it was just in the main dungeon.

[Robsoie]

Titanic slimes can appear if you try to fight a group of those green slimes in a corridor.
A couple of turns later, they all merge into a Titanic slime, leading to some YASD very quickly

[Vorthon]

That's exactly what happened, really.

[tompliss]

Oh, about those : they don't shout.
When you spot an orc or a gnoll, you usually end fighting the whole group at once.
You're not forced against slimes (except if you meet them just going down stairs).
Fighting produces noise that will attract those who didn't notice you (from out of sight), so you'll want to back away when you see a slime, preferably in an area where you have 3 tiles from its direction, if there are only slimes, or simply stair-dance them.

[tryrar]

hmmm, is a +1,+0 great mace of holy wrath worth dropping my shield and my +4,+7 flail of protection?

[Grek]

No, it isn't.