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Author Topic: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.  (Read 1682071 times)

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4200 on: November 01, 2010, 07:47:00 pm »
Spoiler: Part 2 (click to show/hide)
I knew I'd show you one day, crawl!
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4201 on: November 01, 2010, 09:05:44 pm »
Quote from: Nivm on November 01, 2010, 06:43:01 pm
Quote from: Carrion on November 01, 2010, 03:25:55 pm
Losing is not fun.
Crawl has that problem, but their goal list says they're working on making sure it doesn't have to happen.

I hope that they do make it a little more interesting in that regard.  Right now I die around character level 10 and just despair; it seems like a terrible waste.  Not to mention that by dying, you then must contend with your former self.  It's a hard game that only becomes harder when you die.

That said... I really like how hard it is, but I can't help but feel terrible after I loose a character (especially if it is the RNG's fault).
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4202 on: November 01, 2010, 09:24:46 pm »
Quote from: Carrion on November 01, 2010, 09:05:44 pm
Quote from: Nivm on November 01, 2010, 06:43:01 pm
Quote from: Carrion on November 01, 2010, 03:25:55 pm
Losing is not fun.
Crawl has that problem, but their goal list says they're working on making sure it doesn't have to happen.

I hope that they do make it a little more interesting in that regard.  Right now I die around character level 10 and just despair; it seems like a terrible waste.  Not to mention that by dying, you then must contend with your former self.  It's a hard game that only becomes harder when you die.

That said... I really like how hard it is, but I can't help but feel terrible after I loose a character (especially if it is the RNG's fault).
I know how you feel.  When I started out, I couldn't get past D:4 for the life of me.  Now I have a win.  All I can say is keep trying, you learn a lot as you try new things, get further in the game.  And if you have too much trouble with ghosts, try playing a Deep Dwarf Necromancer, they drop them like flies.  But the main thing to remember about ghosts is that you don't have to fight them.  In fact, that's an important part of crawl in general, choosing your battles.  The second you see something that could kill you, run.  You can fight them later.

The thing about the RNG is you can't give it the chance to screw you over.  Don't take chances, unless you're willing to lose the character.  Though there is the occasional time that you can't do anything, and you just get killed.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4203 on: November 01, 2010, 11:00:34 pm »
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Agnes comes into view. She is wielding a runed lajatang.
Helpless, Agnes fails to dodge your attack.
Agnes fails to defend herself. You spit Agnes like a pig!!!
You kill Agnes!
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Louise fails to defend herself. You open Louise like a pillowcase!!!
You kill Louise!

lol nightstalker 3

Edit: Tried to get the drop on Nikola and it didn't work out, but an Orange Demon dealt with it. This is feeling faintly ridiculous.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2010, 11:02:59 pm by 3 »
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4204 on: November 02, 2010, 12:17:57 am »
i thought i read that you could urge bad mutations from yourself without removing your good mutations. i have run into some purple ugly things and i'm considering trying out the strange side of things.

anyone know if there is a way to remove bad mutations but not good ones?
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4205 on: November 02, 2010, 12:57:40 am »
 Supposedly the slime god is the only thing in the game that can do that reliably.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4206 on: November 02, 2010, 01:50:31 am »
i lucked out and ate two pieces of meat, received the see invisible and fire resistance mutations. stopped there for now.

also how do you take screen shots? i have an awesome picture to take and its on of the reasons why fedhas isnt that bad of a god to have.

edit - it appears all i can get is a solid black box... so i'll describe. i'm in the orc mines level 2, i just slaughtered everything in the room with my bare hands, mephetic cloud and poison dart. once everything was dead i turned all the corpses into mushrooms. i now have a two mushroom thick tome of mushrooms :P all of which i can turn into wandering mushrooms if i wanted.
« Last Edit: November 02, 2010, 02:03:36 am by cganya »
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4207 on: November 02, 2010, 02:02:01 am »
Dunno how you manage it straight through crawl or even if that's possible. Printscreen + paint is the standard method for windows users who don't bother getting anything more powerful or useful in the way of screenshot programs and image editors.

I guess you could do a chardump; it's got a little ASCII rendition of your immediate surroundings and recent messages that you could cut out and post.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4208 on: November 02, 2010, 02:35:18 am »
aww son of a #$%^@ got two shotted by a frost giant i had confused twice. seriously wtf? why was a frost giant on the 3rd level of the orc mines? I was able to casually walk through everything else i was running into like it wasnt even there, i was even planning on how i was going to destroy that orc high priest too. damn it all.

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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4209 on: November 02, 2010, 03:03:17 am »
Quote from: Nivm on November 02, 2010, 12:57:40 am
Supposedly the slime god is the only thing in the game that can do that reliably.

A high-power draw of the "Helix" card from certain decks also has a higher-than-normal chance of removing a bad mutation and giving a good one. Xom also has better-than-even odds of giving good mutations and removing bad ones, although this depends heavily on his interest.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4210 on: November 02, 2010, 05:14:31 am »
Quote from: Mr.Person on November 02, 2010, 03:03:17 am
Quote from: Nivm on November 02, 2010, 12:57:40 am
Supposedly the slime god is the only thing in the game that can do that reliably.

A high-power draw of the "Helix" card from certain decks also has a higher-than-normal chance of removing a bad mutation and giving a good one. Xom also has better-than-even odds of giving good mutations and removing bad ones, although this depends heavily on his interest.

also Xom doesn't give you the REALLY bad mutations like teleport or anger.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4211 on: November 02, 2010, 06:10:57 am »
Yeah, Xom just surrounds you with hostile demons every now and then. :P

Personally, I find the deaths I could have avoided more irritating. Sometimes you get shanked by the RNG, and that's fine, but usually there is some painfully obvious course of action I could have taken to save myself, and really have no one to blame for dying but me. THAT is annoying.

EDIT: Lost another OgTr to a hydra. Tried to blink away, but the spell failed to move me away from the hydra, and rather landed me on the opposite side of it, at which point the hydra ate me. I think the main problem with these ogres is that although they are HP powerhouses, their AC and EV kind of suck. The super high strength is nice, though, and I could take most things up to the hydra with little issue. Maybe I should just learn to stay away from hydras?
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4212 on: November 02, 2010, 09:04:50 am »
Quote from: Soadreqm on November 02, 2010, 06:10:57 am
EDIT: Lost another OgTr to a hydra. Tried to blink away, but the spell failed to move me away from the hydra, and rather landed me on the opposite side of it, at which point the hydra ate me. I think the main problem with these ogres is that although they are HP powerhouses, their AC and EV kind of suck. The super high strength is nice, though, and I could take most things up to the hydra with little issue. Maybe I should just learn to stay away from hydras?

Do you use Ice Form against hydras?
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4213 on: November 02, 2010, 01:17:05 pm »
i'm now playing a draconian summoner, found two rings of wizardy already but swapped one out for an unidentified ring that gives 5 evasion 4 strength and 4 dex (holy crap, i wonder what else it does)

also, poison breath attack against assorted orcs stuck in a corridor = win

edit - god damned electric eels! i had a swarm of animals and they still killed me in three turns. they were not nearly that hard in my last play through, of course i didnt run into them till much later. damn it that character was going so well too.
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Re: Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. Or: THAT DAMN SIGMUND.
« Reply #4214 on: November 02, 2010, 02:33:50 pm »
Beam spells will go straight through summons.
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