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[TricMagic]

All I say is Imp the SAVE planning. shrugs. If I'm still around tomorrow somethings gone wrong.

[Imp]

All I say is Imp the SAVE planning. shrugs. If I'm still around tomorrow somethings gone wrong.

SAVE planning?  "Saving on a Valuable Education"?  Not sure what you mean, lol.

Right now, I don't know that FoU can target Tric, but sounds like Tric can target FoU and not turn FoU vamp; FoU needs to save Mirror stance until Verm can target FoU after FoU uses it, but that has to be after Verm unlocks his modifier.  Presuming mirror stance is a 1-shot, no idea.

If FoU can't target Tric or agrees not to, I am about 95% sure I could get Tric to stick around until FoU wins/dies/loses, or indefinitely.  We'd find out real fast, and I don't want to do that.  I'd use it as insurance or to handle a problem, otherwise I'm probably just annoying Tric without benefit to myself or other good reason to do so, if I and others can win another way (exception, as stated, if Verm loses I probably want to see Tric lose this game and will probably try to make that happen.  Except FoU can actually take that from me, if FoU chooses to target Tric and can, so everything's iffy and Verm has a chance to win too, so I'm cool).

If Tric doesn't agree to stick around and is successfully forced to not act, Tric may not be very cooperative during the day (but didn't feed the night before, so can't use any day abilities either).

My strong preference if we change the win order:

Be clear, so Verm knows who to target in what order.  Let's not have any more surprises, we wasted so much time before now.

[Imp]

So DID Tric already touch CM for wincon purposes? I didn't think he had.

CM got locked into voting me the day they got lynched, so yep. That action went through.

Huh. So you no longer need anyone else's cooperation to win, then.

Any chance I can get you to stick around for tomorrow to yes-vote me and get this over with a little faster? I was banking that you'd still be here.

Max.  Want to be clearer on your wincon requirements?

Do you need a specific number of votes on Yes, for example, or a specific number of voters alive to vote?

[Imp]

NJW, would you let us know when D2 is gonna end, if a specific end time is allowed to know?

[NJW2000]

It has been a while since a votecount - this one's rather late.


Vote Count

Imp:
MaximumSpin:
FallacyofUrist:
TricMagic:
VermillionSkies:
Juicebox: VermillionSkies, MaximumSpin
No Elimination: Imp
Yes: TricMagic

Not Voting:   FallacyofUrist, Juicebox


Day 2 will end in approximately 20 Minutes, at 18:00 GMT Sunday 29/09/2024

[Imp]

Verm, based on current info, I still recommend you target Tric tonight.  Eating CM is totally cool, if I bring her back she loses; once she wins I can't bring her back - I'd never bring her back.  There could become someone dead for the purpose of being brought back, though I hope we have options that don't require that to be used, right now all elims I planned for are expected to be butchered by you - if I'm dead I can't bring anyone back unless someone brings me back, don't think anyone could.

However, if Max convinces us to keep Tric around and Fallacy agrees not to target Tric tonight or claims cannot target Tric at all, then I guess the person Verm should target tonight is Max.  I hope we have time to discuss changes in plans, but for both Tric's wincon and CM's wincon and the need to get a spreadable monster status back into play after removing them and the time all that takes, unless I know more about why Max doesn't have flexibility it really does make sense to get the undead out early then add vamps back into play.

That means we control the timing of Tric leaving+FoU being fed on by Tric, or else have time to work the other magic where I vamp you and time my death before you share your [Con] and [Vamp] with FoU as your next to last target then butcher my corpse the next day.

But if there's shenanigans, I'm cool, long as we plan and Verm knows who to target.  I can even help shenanigans and would agree to if they still result in a win-for-all or we discuss who can't win and why, and work around so the most possible win.

[Imp]

It has been a while since a votecount - this one's rather late.


Vote Count

Imp:
MaximumSpin:
FallacyofUrist:
TricMagic:
VermillionSkies:
Juicebox: VermillionSkies, MaximumSpin
No Elimination: Imp
Yes: TricMagic

Not Voting:   FallacyofUrist, Juicebox


Day 2 will end in approximately 20 Minutes, at 18:00 GMT Sunday 29/09/2024

Unless there was vote manipulation past Tric's Yes:

Juice votes for no elim.

Imp, Verm and Max vote for Juice.

[Imp]

Juicebox

But ahh!

AAAAHHH!!

Juicebox

In case that helps.

[TricMagic]

Juicebox

[NJW2000]

Apologies, there may have been an error in the votecount.

Apart from Tric voting Yes. That's been correct the whole day.

Locking thread now, will do the votecount properly.

[NJW2000]

End of Day 2


In a startling turn of events, the remaining six strangers make a tentative accord, offering to help one another with their various endeavours.

Despite this unexpected agreement, at the end of the day one of their number is nonetheless hung from the bar room chandelier.


Juicebox has been eliminated. No information has been revealed.

Night 2 has begun. Send actions in now.



Vote Count

Imp:
MaximumSpin:
FallacyofUrist:
TricMagic:
VermillionSkies:
Juicebox: Imp, MaximumSpin, VermillionSkies
No Elimination: Juicebox
Yes: TricMagic

Not Voting:  FallacyofUrist




Night 2 will end in approximately 24 hours, at 20:00 GMT Monday 30/09/2024

[NJW2000]

Start of Day 3


This morning is different. This morning, one of your fellow guests waits outside the saloon, suitcases in hand. It seems they have accomplished whatever strange errand brought them to this town.



TricMagic has won and left the game.

TricMagic's alignment was Chatterbox.

TricMagic was a [Vampire] Chatterer.

Spoiler: TricMagic (click to show/hide)

Alignment: ChatterBox
     - You win when every player has either visited you or been visited by you
    - You lose when a player that has neither visited you nor been visited by you leaves the game


Role: [Vampire] Chatterer

You have the Loud status
You cannot eat Candy

Endless Discussion: you prevent your target from taking any actions
Ceaseless Arguing: your target starts the next day voting for you and cannot change their vote at any point in the day
Relentless Questioning: [1-shot] you learn your target's role and delay any action they would take until the next night

[Vampire]

You may act twice during the night, as long as both actions do not target the same player
You cannot have the Wounded status
You gain the Undead status
You gain the Monster status
Successfully performing a Bite action on a player that does not have the Undead status results in them gaining the [Vampire] role modifier at start of the subsequent night
If you do not successfully perform a Bite action on a player, you cannot act on the subsequent day

Bite: your target gains the Wounded status. Your target is informed that they were bitten

Spoiler: Public Information (click to show/hide)

Loud - if you visit a player, they are informed that you visited them

Wounded - if you are hit with an action that would normally apply the Wounded status, you die. This does not include actions taken on the phase you gained this status

Undead - you are a member of the undead. Still alive though

Monster - you are a monster

Vote Count

Imp:
MaximumSpin:
FallacyofUrist:
VermillionSkies:
No Elimination:
Yes: Imp

Not Voting:  VermillionSkies, MaximumSpin, FallacyofUrist


Day 3 will end in approximately 72 hours, at 24:00 GMT (midnight) Thursday 3/10/2024

[TricMagic]

click. The musicbox turns on one last time.

[VermilionSkies]

Alright, by the fact that I'm still around, you can tell that I did bite Tric last night without any issues.
I also ate CM yesterday, so we're all good on that front.
Judging by the schedule:
We vote for no elimination today, and I butcher Juicebox.
Next night, I bite Max.
We vote Yes next day, allowing Max to leave the game.
Chomp Fallacy the night after that,
Elim Imp, and then clean up.
Everything correct?
No Elimination.

[Imp]

Grats, Tric.  Grats CM too, I hope.

Max wants out, of course.

Max, can you discuss your loss condition(s) so we can make sure everything is 'okay' for everyone, including you?

If all you need is yes 'elimed' and cannot otherwise lose, you're really needed.

Currently, if it's true that Max isn't undead status, Verm isn't undead status, and FoU isn't undead status, CM has won and we can forget about her need of no undead.

I hope Tric did bite FoU on the way out; if so FoU's a vamp starting N3.

Verm still needs to target Max, FoU, and Imp, as well as he needs to eat Juice.

FoU, do we need to worry about any loss conditions for you?  And you still have at least 1 uneaten modifier-giving candy?  If we can't sweet-talk Max into staying to be the last player to win (and maybe he can't despite not telling us that) then it really helps if you're the last to win.

The complexities:

Juice needs Imp to die before Imp wins or loses, or he loses.
I need everyone alive at some point (can even just be the 1 last player alive) to have the monster status (it is carried with the vamp modifier, there's at least 2 other ways to get it but they've very niche)
Verm needs to target everyone at night or desecrate their body during the day - but once he goes vamp, presuming he goes vamp ever, then he can only do his day action if he has someone to feed on at night... a living player.  They can also be undead, but have to be in play non-corpse.
Fou needs 4 modifiers.  2 are in candy form!  If not consumed yet, they can be consumed 'when the time is right' and this can solve the complex challenges to allow all to win.
Max needs... the vote and that's it?  If so, Max can also be the last alive and allow us all to win.

Otherwise, 1+ of us must lose.

Chances are I'm the correct elim today.

Hope people discuss.

Especially you, Mr. Max.  Can you stay?  Gotta go?  When do you gotta go?