Regarding 4MaskWolf, it's purely a Tonal Read, nothing too deep or that I could prove with anything to make it a clear, it's more just there vibe/energy/tone suggests them have a lot of WIM (Want it more).
Are we reading the same thread?
I'll explain my role for you, Imp. Each night I can extort another player. They must either give me an ability, or they will lose all abilities the next time a player surrenders an ability to me. The person I target learns I targeted them.
I'm using this ability on Max to try to confirm the phrasing of his (presumably one-shot) ability.
Wow.
So, I'm confused.
What night did you target Oliver? What night did you target Max? You said 'using' like it's something ongoing right now.
You... offered to use it on Tric 'tonight'.
I can use it on you tonight, if you'd like.
I wanna understand how it works better.
If you use it on Oliver who takes the risk of losing all if someone says yes, then you use it on Max who say also takes the risk of losing all if someone says yes, and then you offer it to Tric, and Tric says yes -
Do both Oliver and Max lose all their abilities, or is it JUST the last person in the chain at risk?
Also omg please never target me with anything. If you're town and telling the truth then even without knowing anything about the rest of your role I'm terrified of you and think you're the scariest town role I've ever played beside, that Knightwing meme role can go fly because you are pit-of-fear scaphism or something. Noooo not the boats!
But thank you for not targeting me or Vermilion yet and I hope you never do and omg egads and I don't like the way you use what may be townie lies, but I can learn to deal with that maybe. No matter how scared I am, if you functionally are helping town and I can tell, I am very likely to want us both alive in the same game together.
In... your honor? Um, yeah this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbxkOntz2SAAnd I'm that scared of you, but reminded as I rewatch it... you're not the one gonna split a seam laughin'.
And your targeting is not awful if you're town, kinda like potential redirect targeting, it's definitely not obviously likely anti-town-intended to me.
That dangerous 'humor' team around me's probably much more likely to include
4mask and maybe also AP. Right at this second, Max, I'd use the double elim on those two, but that could be a mistake... I'm less concerned about it being a mistake and I'd let AP slip before 4mask, but that could be a mistake. 'Funny' if laughter marks a prime.AP, take another close look at 4mask for me, wouldya?
How's D3 post(s) from 4mask feel to you, getting them townie vibes today too? Are you in a private chat with 4mask that you're getting some of your read from?I ate every single one of the nightkills, and Imp is town. I have reason to suspect that Oliver and AP are as well, due to the effects of Imps role.
For Clarity, I can confirm what Vermilion has said here.
I am under the belief that all four of us involved with this (Me, Imp, Oliver, Vermilion) are good.
So I will be using this to create a POE.
What makes you think that Oliverz is town?
I can confirm that I saw you visit me, and that you told me a joke.
I confirm there's something going on involving those three and me that could confuse some of them (who are not evil) into thinking all 4 of us must be good (especially if they confirm one of us is and know themself to be) and this could be usable by any evil among them. I'm not confused about how they became part of that team, I know that it's not alignment restricted, there's nothing to keep evil from getting in. I don't really want all the mech discussed because I think we have more than 1 anti-town faction (which may involve singles) so there could be anti-town that don't know anything about it yet and might wanna know, otherwise I'm not concerned about the details being shared. But since there's probably under-informed evil ears listening, ugh.
If AP chooses to discuss the mech more widely, that's interesting and I sure can't stop him or anyone.
I'll explain my role for you, Imp. Each night I can extort another player. They must either give me an ability, or they will lose all abilities the next time a player surrenders an ability to me. The person I target learns I targeted them.
So if everyone chooses not to give you any abilities, you will never gain any abilities?
Unless you have a backup plan that strikes me as a bit of a design flaw.
Well, we know TricMagic was able to give at least 1 ability, based on TM and Max claims. I have been very open about being able to give 1+ abilities. So there are other answers. Also, if he's town and targets a scum who refuses, then a town who accepts, he's just stripped a scum of all abilities; If the scum accepts it loses an ability and he could maybe persistently strip abilities from evil if he can find them well enough. He could go back to another scum and repeat the strips if he can find them. He can do it backwards too, and strip townies of abilities, benefiting himself and scum - he's not doing that obviously yet.
Magma, are you something that wins when you get X# of abilities? I'm not sure how to advise you to answer presuming that's true; we have folks here who have purposefully voted open survivor claims (and me! Who rarely lies, and was maybe specifically voted because I claimed I wasn't town - they didn't need me dead that's not scumhunting didn't even say they didn't believe me!!!! and died for that vote because Imp don't play that when Imp's survivor and can kill people voting open honest expects to help town Imp)...
So it may not be in your best interest to say yes even if it's true. But I'm kinda open to as many wincons winning as possible, if we can do that safely, and I'm open to considering any wincon that isn't expressly anti-town (and town needs dead to win) as pro-town, it's all in the play.
What happens to people that target you, Magma? CM says she tried, and was seen targeting Oliver that night instead. Do you know anything about why? I'm afraid I try to give you an ability and you consume me entire, or close enough. You 'feel wrong', your intentions and stuff. The more I understand the more I'm likely to like it if what you tell me is compatible with my wincon, but if you need like 3 abilities to win, you're VERY much better off helping me understand that because I'm likely to encourage folks to maybe not target you or accept your stuff while we try to figure you out without me touching you (like win the game around you) or maaaaaybe kill you but I'm not sure about that.... the better I understand the more likely I beg a fellow townie to help confirm you're safe to target, then do more of my own checks, then start feeding you abilities when it doesn't hurt town for me to do so.