Imp:
I am unable to tell what type of nightkill I block, I just get a message whenever one hits me.
Also, I didn't do it, but I did learn that you are town mechanically.
If I have to point fingers at either of Oliver or AP, I feel inclined to poke AP first. Oliver's role does not seem particularly scum-aligned from what I know of it.
With more thought about mech, while I don't know anything about the alignment of Oliver or AP, the odds that either targeted me with a NK without also targeting me with something else N1 is extremely low.
When someone successfully targets me for the first time, something happens that is pretty informative for me and also a number of other people that includes my previous living targeters.
If someone aimed a nightkill at me and did something else aimed at me TOO, it seems from Verm's claim that the NK would be redirected to Verm and never touch me, but the other action should land.
If that happened, then that person would be one of Oscar/AP, who also have whatever else mech stuff is going on with them because they successfully targeted me and the various informing and whatever.
How common is it for a NK to be part of a multiple action? It's certainly possible, but we should expect Oscar/AP to be an attempted NKer of me only if they did actually double action with me as a double target that included NK as a N1 action on me (or whatever other shuffling around of actions, but Oscar and Vermilion at very least don't seem surprised that they ended up targeting me N1 (we haven't heard from AP, let's wait to see what AP actually says even if someone thinks they can speak for AP about this for any reason).
If Oscar or AP is part of a scumteam or other private chat that can talk at night, everyone in the chat likely knows all the mech stuff that happened to Oscar and AP upon targeting me, but there's possibly evil slots that are not in those chats if they even discuss, so I'd like the mech-side of what happens to those who target me kept vague. It's also bigger than those not-me know, but even what my previous successful targeters know is pretty informative, so let's not share it except to make sure you guys know you get informed about any and every brand new successful targeter I will have, so watch timing of events and consider what information would be gained or shared as that happens.
Loads of time NK are thrown without a second action though, especially from the same person (though NK are definitely often free here, so sure, could be a double-actioning NKer, and maybe wanted to target me for both).
But if the person trying to NK me, if anyone did, if that got redirected off me without any other action on me - that person wouldn't be among Verm/AP/Oliv, because they never landed an action on me so they never triggered that mech and are not 'among the counted'.
And that person, if not in a chat with AP/Oliv/Verm (Verm's good, but could be in 1+ chats with people of any alignment, I don't know and Verm seems pretty trusting in general) was surely not informed about what happens when I'm targeted, so that NK person might try to NK me N1, not succeed. Consider Vermilion's D1 claim of bodyguard-adjacent and planning to target me, and maybe targeted Verm for N2 NK. If that happened, that person isn't either of Oliv/AP. It also could happen in opposite order - try to kill Verm N1, try to kill me N2, again with no other action on me except the NK. Any of that's possible based on known things in play.
I'm open to any possibility, but I think it could even be likely that neither AP nor Oliver tried to NK me N1. If either tried N2, it went straight to Verm without another action that did hit me so I wasn't informed.
I'm more concerned about folks outside of that group; those who target me give me various additional powers over them in the future. It takes time but if I have an anti-town 'among the counted', I'll know a lot about them eventually, and mech works a bit different between those folks and me. So, me personally I'm more focused on those who haven't targeted me yet, they're a bit harder for me to catch if they need catching.
Vermilion, I am not specifically safe from NK from any source, except perhaps from your actions. If you choose to keep targeting me for that into the future I'm thrilled and need the help if someone wants me dead.
We seem to have a redirector!
I have no evidence yet of myself having been redirected, and it's pretty clear that the redirector did NOT target Vermilion either. I lean 'likely towny redirector' on the apparent targeting choices of the redirector, I appreciate them allowing the targeting between Verm and myself and myself to whomever I pick to happen. I could be totally wrong there and I'm absolutely fascinated by possible redirection and I do not want to be redirected, just aware of it, and if it's not me redirected I'm not too concerned about it other than 'oooh! Big interesting show to watch!'.
For example, Wolfkey
could be concerned about
(Note: i am tired and writing this quickly)
If anyone has used used abilities that let them know what faction someone is, i would like to both who the target was, and which night it was used on, due to an ability i used on one of the nights.
A redirector might be very concerned about this, as it could cause an incorrect understanding of an inspect/track/whatever. A load of other people of various alignments could be very interested in this possibility too. I wonder when we're all brave enough to claim actions, and what the claims will be when they come.
Almost everybody has claimed, and yet no one has claimed a redirect on me or CM N1, which makes me quite suspicious of them. If it is CM, I could see them being paired with AP or VermilionSkies.
Juice, explain the possible pairings you see there?
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