I confirm Tric has a reasonable claim for use of glass, and that right now it requires an action to use; that's the condition of it as I trade it to EP. I am shocked at Tric's claim of abilities, to have that could-self-refill and two artifacts, one 'useless' to him (as far as I know) and the other the glass - is one of the most suspicious things about Tric to me. It could be true. If not, it could hide so much. I have some ideas how much it could hide. But I don't know. Toony maybe can find out, but not sure how. But Tric's claim doesn't match those we've seen flipped yet well. Still could be completely true. Every game I've played with Tric, Tric has tended towards honesty. And yeah, gone differently, that self-refill thing is shockingly powerful, and shockingly dangerous to Tric and others. If we were hitting town and he kept using it, or used it in scary ways, if I lived I'd be demanding Tric's death. Had to think a lot, but yeah, -I- will not be refilling Tric for any reason I can currently imagine. Still though... Tric's claim seems very underpowered for a real claim - and still could be 100% true.
CM claimed to independently steal; I claim I independently gained Tric's items by my own choice too. I don't believe that's the only thing either CM or I knowingly did, though it could have been.
"nobody wants to hear me try to clear myself, anyway." Right and wrong. I want to see you try to win the game. Presumably town win. Help us help get it, even if you die today. We saw Qua do that. I think I see Toony doing that. Both of them, "I think I am about to die. Here's my best shot, advice, efforts, this sucks".
I definitely think you too can offer that. I can't promise you live, but I promise I'm listening, and OMG I do not want to see a town flip. But unfortunately I'm not scum and I'm not bribeable. I'm going to not vpte you because I think you're pro-town, or worst case reason, because I foolishly think we can pin you. I think you know how to ask nqt for one hell of a role. I think I could ask you for your actions, get a list of 6, press you, get a 7th, and still be trying to figure out what the heck else you got.
But that goes for everyone in the game. Seriously, even if I vote you, I'm even now on the fence about you and that's before you shine.
You're Max and you got Spin, and if you're town, you can help. You're good at stuff I'm not good at. Especially reading teams. I can't read that, but I can try to read you. Who cares if I can't, nobody can. I can still try.
While I do that, maybe focus on day game as much or more as night. I agree with you, nobody here can be certainly read by their night game, but night game is part of it. The day game, the actions, intentions, whatever - that's where I think the truth is. Maybe you don't; maybe your mind works different. That's even better, because that really helps. Like, oh, whoever mentioned that SK might be a hidden sphere of kills. I never considered. You can help me Xanatos better. Heck, town you, why aren't you already Xanatosing? You wrote my bible! And it's a pretty good one, I've been testing it out!
Very nice answer, thank you.
If you were being sarcastic, sorry, I didn't mean for that to come out caustic.
No. You're in a mess and I purposefully asked you, and pointed out to all, a tricky thing. Superficially it's exactly as you read, deep in there is some weird stuff about you. Town weird or scum weird, I don't know. If you live and I die and flip town, maybe it increases the odds someone checks that out/you are killed, but again, I don't know if it's town weird or scum weird, or NAI, since you.
Your answer's a good one though. Surface level good, and correctly identifies that there's an issue in my words (yes, I put it there) and tells me a reasonable, workable, appropriate answer, given that I made that statement - I'd expect you to explain to the class if someone else asked what's up with what I said, and I expect I'd then go a few steps deeper. Still, that's possibly town poo in the sewer, and I have way better uses of your time if you're willing to use it than asking you to focus on you. I can focus on you. I want you focused on everyone else. Including me if you see reason - after all you are a check on me if I'm anti-town and you're not my flavor of anti-town. Your reasons will fascinate me, and can help me find the real scum if they're not you. I've had my first series of vaccine-MS, and I hopefully don't have an allergy or an infection if you're anti-town, but instead if you're town, I really need your help to find the actual anti-town.
Because I know I'm town - but totally fine with you pointing out concerns about anyone - but if you're also town, not only if we elim you do I lose you for all the reasons that losing a town hurts -me- and the rest of town, but also... your mind. Your mind is no mind to waste. I need your help, if you're not anti-town. I don't need you to clear yourself, that's my job to decide if gets done or not. (not mine alone, but I do my part either way).
Can I do it? There's 3 people who look about as 'should die' as you. I sure don't want to flub this. Who cares if anyone can save you. Play to your wincon, please, so I can read you better. And actually get your help. Have you seen how much help Max can give the wincons Max chooses to see win?