Well, if you were scum would you prefer to accuse me of lying about who max visited and thus implicate me as max's killer, or just go along with what I said in case CM also visited max?
CM looks to be the first to bring it up? Right. *sighs* this is something we need to consider then.
Unless we want to count Egan hinting around as a form of bringing it up. Very indirect though.
Now to actually answer Egan's question, or try to.
Egan this is hard because I genuinely didn't get a scum mod mail. I didn't even consider deeply if the killer has 1 kill or a track, a combined kill that gives a track result, or what. I actually managed to forget that the mafia was explicitly stated to also track.
How could I do that? I wrote it off originally as an inspect. I think I played a game ago where the killer could inspect. It didn't seem off to me. I didn't consider it again when I realized my oops about track/=inspect.
When hec stated
We no lynch today, find out whether or not the scum is compelled to kill, and probably come back to the same situation D3.
Seemed reasonable to me.... now. At the time I thought 'Right. Scum can choose to kill or not, maybe. Maybe track or kill. But this is probably the scum talking'. And I didn't even think about 'track and kill'. I was pretty intense about knowing that Hec had visited Max and deeply, so deeply wanted nobody else to have. At this time, I knew my DM and Hec's claim that matched my DM. 'Oh blood blood but must set trap and look at that probable scum try to disarm the trap and is it going to be that simple that only Hec went to Max? If so, when I claim I tracked him there, if nobody else tracked me, gonna be me and him seen as the scum choices, how to handle this right.'
I wasn't considering the other aspects yet, like if he had other trackers or what it meant if Max did, I was mostly hoping we could trap a scum as the only visitor and then get him, or get me cause I tracked him to Max. Blood-blind, that was imp. My thoughts are quite different now.
But yeah, we don't have any mechanics clearance, I think.
And only so much play to read, but.
I think Egan's hinting at a problem in Imp's reasoning, that marks Egan as cleared, in this:
Well, if you were scum would you prefer to accuse me of lying about who max visited and thus implicate me as max's killer, or just go along with what I said in case CM also visited max?
That reads like a very townie question, I think?
Scum Egan sees imp thinking Egan cleared by confusion about the possible mix of track and kill. Sees Hector equally confused. Cry hasn't spoken yet - Cry speaks up 13 minutes after Egan checks me out with that question, and just a few minutes after I make my firm claim that Egan and Hec seem town to me (even though I now doubt my reasoning of then, big time) and that I think it's reasonable to pick between me and Cry for the lynch.
If Cry is scum, that's gotta look bad to Cry. If Egan is scum.... that may look good? Still gotta look town, but how? I lean town in Egan's question, because scum Egan's happy to lynch either Imp or Cry. Town Egan cares about lynching just the right person. Everyone usually finds it easy to think as themself and their own viewpoint, easier than any other.
Well, if you were scum would you prefer to accuse me of lying about who max visited and thus implicate me as max's killer, or just go along with what I said in case CM also visited max?
Okay! So. Me scum knows you are town. You claimed to visit Max. You're town, all of you are town, I'm the scum and the only liar unless you're all nuts.
I won't even consider that you lied about who Max visited. You have zero reason to lie. I can't use that to implicate that as you being Max's killer, plus I too, as Max's killer, IF the kill and the track are the same thing, know who Max visited.
If scum imp killed Max, then scum imp (probably? I think definitely) visited Max. At the time I claimed to visit Hec, we had 2 claims of visits on Max. Not much more risk if I really visited Max and claim I did. Some risk, if Cry visited me, if I claim anything else. I read that as no benefit to me in claiming to visit Hec instead of visit Max... You, 'go along with what you say' - I don't think scum imp would care much about your claim of where Max went, even if my kill was not also a track.
Now, back to my deeper interest... does that question support that Egan was thinking about the likeliness of anyone else noticing that the kill and track might be combined for scum? Because Egan is scum or because Egan noticed the likely hole in logic that neither Hec nor Imp were exploring?
Why expect Cry, who says so little, would say THAT as the one thing that Cry brings up? A genius scum Egan, seeing the pressure on town Cry, thinking Cry would catch and point that out?
Not likely.
I do think Egan was hinting about it, but more as a town-Egan, probing Imp because 'wait, maybe scum Imp, you called me towniest then scummy, then didn't even discuss, and now you call me confirmed town and what about this flaw about the scum kill? How would you answer that, Imp?' I am surprised if scum Egan would go that direction. (But I'm wrong a lot)
I still really wanna hear more from Cry!
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