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Author Topic: Cardhood - First Expansion is now a thing!  (Read 14288 times)

RulerOfNothing

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Re: Cardhood - Not too late to join!
« Reply #330 on: December 16, 2023, 08:01:20 pm »

Turn 18
Starting civ status:
Civilization Name: Torkal League
Population: 5 (5 labor)
Food: 4
Wood: 3
Science: 1
Cards in play:

Gain Scavenging from Black Owl
Play Superbloom (-5 labor, copy of Grazing Animals enters play)
Activate Safe Haven (discard Scavenging)
Allocate 1 Science to Research Project (Woodworking)


End-of-turn actions: Pay 5 food for population upkeep

Ending civ status:
Civilization Name: Torkal League
Population: 5 (0 labor)
Food: 4 + 13 (Superbloom) + 1 (Safe Haven activation) - 5 (Population) => 13
Wood: 3
Science: 1 - 1 (Research Project Allocation) => 0
Cards in play:
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Supernerd

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Re: Cardhood - Not too late to join!
« Reply #331 on: December 17, 2023, 12:58:32 am »

Some of the flaws of this game are quickly becoming apparent.

At any rate, are you guys still having fun with this? I figure a fun inspection is in order.
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RulerOfNothing

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« Reply #332 on: December 17, 2023, 01:19:31 am »

I'm having fun so far. Actually do I need to inform you about completed research projects or Animalism when requesting hands?

Turn 19:
Starting civ status:
Civilization Name: Torkal League
Population: 5 (5 labor)
Food: 13
Wood: 3
Science: 0
Cards in play:

Activate Safe Haven (discard Persistant Predator, it plays itself)
Play Animalism
Play Animalism
Play Improvised Tool (-2 labor)
Play Lucky Opportunity


End-of-turn actions: spend 5 food for population upkeep, Animalism gives 2 FP to Black Owl, 3 labor spent, Animalism gives 2 FP to Aywen, Animalism is removed

Starting civ status:
Civilization Name: Torkal League
Population: 5 (0 labor)
Food: 13 + 1 (Safe Haven Activation) + 1 (Improvised Tool) + 2 (Lucky Opportunity) - 5 (Population) => 12
Wood: 3
Science: 0
Cards in play:
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Supernerd

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« Reply #333 on: December 17, 2023, 01:30:45 am »

There's no need to remind me about completed research projects. Its the in-progress ones in danger of being missed.
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Criptfeind

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« Reply #334 on: December 17, 2023, 03:17:35 am »

Some of the flaws of this game are quickly becoming apparent.

At any rate, are you guys still having fun with this? I figure a fun inspection is in order.
Sure, I'm having fun, especially relative to the effort it takes to play. Although I imagine it's significantly more effort to run.

I do sometimes feel like I'm unsure where the game is going. Without a goal to gradually build towards I guess the game is going to continue until either a bad enough streak of luck kills the player or the game dies out? Or maybe we'll eventually research some competitive cards and kill each other? Idk.
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« Reply #335 on: December 17, 2023, 03:48:54 am »

Turn 27 Continued

Civilization Name: Qajen
Civilians: 7/7
Food: 16
Science: 2
Wood: 1
Cards in Play: Impatience (corpseblight)|Forest|Safe Havenx2|Seasonal Leaf Changex3|Big Tree|Steal Luck|Owlsong|Research Project (fruit orchard cultivation) 10|Cursed Grounds

Play Animalism: Cursed Ground gives 1 fp to Ken-Thun
Activate Safe Haven to discard Ancient knowledge: +1 food -ancient knowledge
Activate Safe Haven to discard Transportation: +1 food -Transportation -1 pop, curse ground destroys itself to create +1 pop
Play big tree: -1 labor +big tree
Play Mysterious cabbage using labor: -2 labor +3 food
Play Fruiting: -2 labor +2 food
Play idea using labor: -1 +1 science
Apply 2 science to Research project (fruit orchard cultivation): -2 science


Upkeep: 7 from pop
End Turn
Animalism gives 1 fp to Black Owl
Animalism destroys itself

Religion this turn:
+1 FP to Ken-Thun
+1 FP to Black Owl

Civilization Name: Qajen
Civilians: 1/7
Food: 16
Science: 1
Wood: 1
Cards in Play: Impatience (corpseblight)|Forest|Safe Havenx2|Seasonal Leaf Changex3|Big Treex2|Steal Luck|Owlsong|Research Project (fruit orchard cultivation) 12
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« Reply #336 on: December 17, 2023, 05:45:20 am »

Hey RulerOfNothing, thanks for the Persistent Predator, lol.
Spoiler: Zihsal'has (click to show/hide)


Turn 24
Gain

▼ Remove ▼


Activate


▼ To play ▼

▼ Draw ▼


Play (in order)

+6

(Fishing Implements)
▼ Allocate ▼
x6


Activate


▼ Using ▼

+4 "Food"


Remove


▼ Using ▼
2 "Food"



Field


x2

(Fishing Implements)(6)


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End-of-Turn status:
Spoiler: Zihsal'has (click to show/hide)
Population: 5 => 5
Food: 26 + 6(Seabird Nesting) + 4(Safe Haven) - 2(Removing Persistent Predator) - 5(Upkeep) => 29
Science: 7 - 1(Research Project) - 6(Research Allocation) => 0
Wood: 0 => 0

For the fun inspection:
This game is one of the most fun forum games i've participated in, legitimately.
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Criptfeind

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« Reply #337 on: December 17, 2023, 07:52:15 am »

Does steal luck copy persistent predators?

"The next time another player plays a card" vs "It plays itself" I figured that would mean that since predator plays itself it's not the player playing it, so it wouldn't count? I could see why you'd read it another way, but I'm unsure. (Given the nature of the game, when questions like this come up, I play them out as literally as possible and move on, to not bog down with too many rules questions, but now you got me doubting)
« Last Edit: December 17, 2023, 07:56:34 am by Criptfeind »
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« Reply #338 on: December 17, 2023, 07:55:32 am »

Good question. IDK, but i'm sticking to my turn to be on the safe side. If Supernerd rules that it doesn't count, i'll refund myself 2 food later.
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« Reply #339 on: December 17, 2023, 08:17:20 am »

Steal Luck steals the next pink card another player plays, not yourself. Also, doesn't rainfall double the cost and effect of nesting seabirds when played in that order?
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« Reply #340 on: December 17, 2023, 08:23:51 am »

Steal Luck steals the next pink card another player plays, not yourself. Also, doesn't rainfall double the cost and effect of nesting seabirds when played in that order?

Yep, the card was from RulerOfNothing's 19th turn, after my 23th.
Also correct on the Seabirds part. (6-3)*2 is 6, is it not? i include the deduction of food used to play the card in the outcome. Been doing that for a while. No point in writing out more calculations than necessary. The numbers are correct that's all that matters.
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« Reply #341 on: December 17, 2023, 09:25:50 am »

Steal Luck steals the next pink card another player plays, not yourself. Also, doesn't rainfall double the cost and effect of nesting seabirds when played in that order?

Yeah, what's at question isn't that, but rather if persistent predators itself counts, given it plays itself, not a player playing it.
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TricMagic

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« Reply #342 on: December 17, 2023, 09:34:43 am »

I don't think it does, given no player is playing it, or it's still being played by you by a forced effect.
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« Reply #343 on: December 17, 2023, 10:59:59 am »

Steal Luck specifically says it activates when a player plays a card with a pink background. In this case, a discard effect caused a card to specifically 'play itself'. Discarding a card is not playing a card, so I am ruling that if it comes into play due to being discarded then it does not activate Steal Luck's effect in this scenario.

If a player chooses to play it normally, Persistent Predator could still trigger Steal Luck though.
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« Reply #344 on: December 17, 2023, 11:02:24 am »

Well i'm not gonna redo my whole turn for it. So i'll just refund myself 2 food come next turn.
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