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Author Topic: CWAR: SFS Thread // Revision Phase // Warm Seasons 1947  (Read 11113 times)

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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #135 on: April 07, 2023, 05:07:23 pm »

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"Oruz" Articulated Battle Rover:
The age of the tank is over. Tracks are slow and complicated. Sure, tracks are more efficient at generating traction than wheels. But all we need to solve that is MORE POWER.

The Oruz looks sort of like this, but is tank-sized, not three-story-building sized. Also, the central 'body' more closely resembles the turret of a tank. (Roughly this)(E: maybe more like this)
Each wheel (and the hydraulics of the 'leg' it is mounted on) is powered by its own GGPRO-HP engine, providing an awful lot of power. The 'legs' are not for show- they can move independently, adapting to the terrain, allowing the Oruz to cross rough terrain with almost as much ease as a tank. It is slightly slower when faced with particularly stubborn obstacles, but on regular rough terrain- let alone paved roads-, the Oruz is significantly faster than a tank. The adaptability of the 'legs' also provides remarkable stability- while the driver can override it, a gyroscopic system automatically adjusts the 'legs' to keep the turret level even at high speeds. 
The Oruz's turret is armed with a 100mm rifled gun- a pretty standard piece pulled from a regular tank, capable of firing about 4 rounds per minute out to a decent range. There is a coaxial Pulemet No.6, and a second on top of the turret that can be freely aimed (serving as rudimentary AA).
In terms of armour, the turret has 120mm side, 80mm rear, 200mm front (all sloped) and 60mm top. The legs outwards-facing sides have 120mm over critical components, 80mm elsewhere (lightly sloped). The top/front is 100/60, though due to the extreme slope, this is still substantial. Top/rear is 80/50. In all, the armour is substantial, but not excessive; or, in a single word: medium.
The Oruz is, of course, a new approach to armoured vehicles. As such, some teething issues are to be expected. Our focus is on the vehicle structure over actual performance- while it is intended to be combat-capable, it is more important to lay a strong foundation for future vehicles.
SPECS:
-Crew: 3 (commander, gunner, driver)
-Armour: medium
-Length: 9m
-Width: 3m
-Height: 3.5m (can 'crouch' down to 2.5m)
-Armament: 100mm rifled tank gun, 2 Pulemet No.6 MGs (coaxial, turret)
-Top Speed (on-road): 100km/h
-Top Speed (off-road): 60km/h
-Operational Range: 300-400km (on-road)(GGPRO-HP has good fuel efficiency, even with four engines per vehicle)
Edit: What I perceive as the advantages/disadvantages of the Oruz compared to a regular tank.
Advantages:
-Significantly faster (in most cases)
-More manoeuvrable (in some cases)- can rise/crouch to fire over cover; make quick turns; maintain level turret whilst driving on a slope.
-Reduced maintenance requirements- wheels and hydraulics simpler mechanically than tracks.
-Looks cooler
Disadvantages:
-Harder design, due to novel structure
-Worse at handling extremely rough terrain
-Easier target due to taller profile
-More vulnerable to precise shots damaging crucial components
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #136 on: April 08, 2023, 07:10:59 am »

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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #137 on: April 10, 2023, 12:47:45 pm »

Electroculture is Ludicrous, as it's still Theoretical in real life as it is, and the goal for growth rates is, well, Ludicrous.

I'd put the Oruz at a Hard. It's ultimately a tank but legs instead, and all that engine experience isn't going to waste.
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #138 on: April 10, 2023, 01:03:03 pm »

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GRADAR: (2) TricMagic, NUKE9.13
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E: Forgot to explain my votes:
GRADAR is a stepping stone to EM weapons and the like. MoP said on Discord that it being cheaper will make future Wave Alloy projects easier, hence the use of the Expense Credit.
I want something to send as military aid to Iava, and the tank-niche is one we'll have to fill at some point regardless. Oruz is more fun than a regular tank. While I was expecting a higher difficulty, I still want to use the RC on it- it'd be nice if it turned out good enough that we don't need to Design a replacement for a long while.
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #139 on: April 10, 2023, 02:54:12 pm »

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I am of the opinion radar is always going to be useful. Plus hardlight eventually. Though Lasers are cool too

Got an idea for something else too? If it goes really well, we can spring for a sensor suite on our tank. More realistically, night vision goggles (with infrared). Maybe integrated radio if we want the best helmet, but that's a good deal more ambitious. (Especially for a revision)
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #140 on: April 11, 2023, 11:19:31 am »

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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #141 on: April 13, 2023, 07:11:54 am »

As this is the last turn for proposal estimates, I figured it'd be good to get an idea of how far we can push our space program in a single design. I don't actually want to do this yet, but eventually.
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Objekt-19 - The Cosmic Pioneer
Space. The final frontier. Definitely the final one. There's absolutely no way that we will ever have to deal with some sort of... alternative dimensional frontier.

Objekt-19 is somewhat larger than Objekt-17/18, but this is a minor difference. There are two major differences.
First, Objekt-19 has much larger tanks of liquid hydrogen installed. Upon reaching a 25km altitude, the hydrogen is slowly released into the engine, supplementing the atmospheric gases forced into the ramjet. This continues for longer than Objekt-18, with the flow gradually increasing until reaching an altitude of 40km. At this point, the atmosphere has grown so thin that the ram barely contributes to the reaction mass- so it is shut. Six metal triangles emerge from slots around the ram, extending until they join together in a six-sided 'cone' that completely shuts off the intake. This changes the engine from a ramjet into a thermal rocket- although mechanically not much has changed.
Second, Objekt-19 is not just a dumb rocket. As it is intended to reach altitudes of at least 100km, slight deviations in course could result in it landing kilometers away from its target landing zone. Thus, a more advanced guidance system (incorporating some Gavrilium Waffle circuits) is configured to maintain/adjust the heading on the fly. It is aided in this endeavour by RCS (using hydrocarbon fuel and an oxidizer to produce thrust) that allow Objekt-19 to manoeuvre even in a vacuum (where the stubby wings are useless).
Objekt-19 also has a larger sensor suite that records data as it flies. The recordings are stored in a reinforced section with its own parachute, which detaches briefly before the main body's parachutes activate. This ensures that even if the main body's parachutes fail, the flight data can be recovered.

Various flight paths are to be attempted, both to test the guidance system's efficacy, and to provide real world data on the optimal burn/trajectory to get vehicles into space. Oh, and there is a test to see if we could have Objekt-19 hit a target a thousand kilometers away with any degree of accuracy. The target for this long-range test is an empty stretch of ocean where our fleet will be performing a routine exercise, conveniently providing cover to keep prying eyes away, and to retrieve the recording section (it has an inflatable ring to make it buoyant).
Why is this long-range test important? Well... hypothetically, if we wanted to strike at key centres of industry and military facilities in the North, this sort of thing could be useful. To be clear, there are no plans to do so. The long-range test is just one of many. Only a few high-level figures are aware of its ramifications- but it is enough to ensure that the top brass remain happy to fund our space program for years to come. Undoubtedly, if we were to actually build such... 'intercontinental ballistic missiles', to coin a phrase, it would be very difficult to keep rumours of their existence from drifting into Northern ears. But we should be able to keep a single test of this top-secret project under wraps, for now.
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #142 on: April 13, 2023, 09:33:58 am »

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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #143 on: April 13, 2023, 09:59:40 am »

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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #144 on: April 13, 2023, 10:49:06 am »

Space rocket totally not ICBM is solidly Very Hard at the moment. You’ve done some work towards a space program with engines and rockets but this step forward is largely held back difficulty-wise due to the...limited positive results from the previous step. Going from what you functionally have to what you should have and then beyond to this is not an insignificant step (for instance, this will double the altitude you reached with the rockets in the previous experiment, the one that exploded more often than not). This isn't to say failure actively makes things harder, more that better results make things easier by reducing the "distance" between points A and B. A minor but important distinction that some people forget sometimes, and a misinterpretation I don't want to risk people having.
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #145 on: April 13, 2023, 01:00:07 pm »

Supercapacitator Gavrilium Battery [Civilian]
Gavrilium. It's known to be a material closely associated with energy in many forms. But one of the simplest applications is just using it as a battery. Grinding it down, using a magnet to remove dust and earth. Or just carefully cutting purer examples into translucent gems. The end result is some waste produce and a translucent that once covered in rubber and had connecters added onto it makes for the perfect supercapacitor, capable of storing huge amounts of energy at a time. Their primary usage is an easy to transport electrical source when you go camping. (Or are out in the field). The larger ones can be used in military matters to recharge planes, tanks, boats, subs. Any vehicle really.

The production of most SCG batteries is packing the pure Gavrilium within a rubber container, with a metal outside giving it shape. The rare large gems we can create are instead often used in power plants in case of blackouts, though they also see some use within other facilities as a backup power source.

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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #146 on: April 13, 2023, 03:04:53 pm »

Quote from: Sak-46 Rubin
Quote from: Blue Öyster Cult - ME 262
In a G-load disaster from the rate of climb
Sometimes I'd faint and be lost to our side
But there's no reward for failure but death
So watch me in mirrors, keep in the glidepath

The Sakhonet design bureau is rapidly developing a reputation for building aircraft that look like silver-plated lawn darts and fly like New Year’s fireworks, but this latest offering goes the extra mile of putting a person inside of one. Fucking nutjobs.

The Sak-46 Rubin—“Ruby”—is a supersonic fighter-bomber powered by a single G-C turbojet running the long axis of the plane, fed air by a scoop intake on the underside of the fuselage and electricity by a GGPRO-HP situated just behind the pilot. The wings, near the back of the airframe, are short and slightly swept for better performance at Mach numbers between 1 and 2.

It is armed with the same complement of four 23mm cannons as the Sakhonet bureau’s previous flagship design, clustered together in the snout. It additionally has hardpoints for up to three bombs, one on the fuselage and two smaller ones under the wings.

The pilot’s cabin is pressurized, permitting the Ruby to fly higher than any previous combat aircraft. In the event of a crash-landing the pilot survives, a small survival kit is provided: Nebolshoy pistol, potassium iodide antiradiation pills, water purification tablets, and a combination Endicarian phrasebook slash glossary on historical materialism.

Design Priorities (and Unpriorities)
  • Supersonic performance over subsonic performance. While suited to high-speed maneuvers, the lift characteristics require a long runway for high-speed landings.
  • Endurance over “Minuteman” response times. Low fuel consumption should permit a wing of Rubies to stay in the air for extended periods over a large patrol zone, operating in shifts to compensate for kit-out and deployment time.
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #147 on: April 13, 2023, 03:28:25 pm »

Siitia Vevela
The Siitia Vevela makes use of GC Rods powered by a GGPRO engine, as well as a compressor unit within the jets. It's optimized to perform at multiple speeds up to and including Mach 1. At startup the plane the fans spin up, taking in air in through the inlets, before the GC Rods in the combustion chambers triggers the heating and expansion of that air out the back of the propelling nozzle, granting speed and lift-off. from the tarmac It's operation range is rather massive due to the GGPRO and GC keeping it powered without the need for oil or refueling. Comes equipped with four 23mm cannons for defense, as well as two unguided rockets meant to strike grounded targets. This GC Rods are rated for 1000 hours of operation time though it is recommended to replace the GC Rods after 600. Includes an ejection system and parachute. It's horizontal flight and vertical climb is sublime, though we do not suggest exceeding 70° climb, nor vertical loops.


Leisa-Ta'ita'i Fa'ataulau
The Leisa-Ta'ita'i Fa'ataulau, or Fat Lass as soldiers call it, is designed as the world's first self-correcting missile. Though the use of a high-broadband radio signal, the missile tracks the signal as it bounces back from the target, the fins self-correcting thanks to the use of gravillium computing components. The ammunition is comprised of powdered Gavrilium mixed with nitroglycerine and gel, shaped to burst inward with more force conventional warheads, with a coned head for aerodynamics. If it doesn't blow a hole in what your aiming at, the shockwave is likely to kill anyone within the blast radius anyway. It makes for a strong anti-vehicle weapon, carriable by infantry. Though the uses of the radio gun for targeting means two are needing for the tracking to work.
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #148 on: April 14, 2023, 12:33:08 pm »

Supercapacitator Gavrilium Battery is Easy. It's just a gavrillium battery.

Rubin is Normal. You've made the engine, and the rest of the aircraft isn't too complex or demanding.

Siitia is Normal, because of the above reason.

Leisa is upper Very Hard. It's a man-portable radio-triangulating missile. You've done a little radio and missile related work, but nothing that can be easily thrown together in this fashion.
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Re: CWAR: SFS Thread // Design Phase // Winter 1946
« Reply #149 on: April 17, 2023, 01:16:13 pm »

Revision: Case(full) of Evidence
Intel gathered by our spies is compiled at the Federal Intelligence Center, a veritable load full of evidence demonizing the UNSA machine. Using this, we can build a very believable story tailored to fit any targets we need to convert to a Socialist way of thinking. This is much easier for the capitalists dogs to swallow than full on Communism, granting us a convert that will push for equal rights and lower class equality with the rich tycoons in the upper echelons. And in time, and evidence of the natural corruption that capitalism brings at the higher levels, we can use them to help with local operations. Propaganda, Spin, and Evidence, the three keys to talk our way through to our new allies.
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