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[ToonyMan]

I'm busy at work still but I should be home before deadline.

I don't get Max's roleclaim. If it's true Max literally claimed the most damning part of their role rather than the parts of their role that might exonerate them in our eyes. "Ayy lmao I can get converted by the wolves/third party" isn't a ringing endorsement of leaving you alive.

So what's that make Max?

Hint: Not wolves/third party

Also critical in my judgement is that Max, like me, has claimed monster abilities and so, like me, I would expect Max to be non-Good. Toss in the blatent votes to protect himself instead of find evil, and non-Good Max is pretty much a given IMO.

Wrong. Max is being himself.

@Hector:
Persus says right after he misplaced my part earlier.

@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.

[Lenglon]

@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.

This statement bothers me, because it doesn't seem to match with what you said to Tric.

[EuchreJack]

@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.

But you and I both know Tric lacks the discretion to ignore your inquiry, or answer it without giving more info.
Your question is most likely to result in Tric fullclaiming something he should NOT.
You should know better, ToonyMan

[EuchreJack]

What is saying you're a Warden mean? Do you plan on saying more or are you just saying that to sound authorative?

This was BAD Toony. Very Bad.

@Tric: My apologies, you in fact responded quite well to Toonyman.  Good job!

[ToonyMan]

I also find it suspicious that I'm like 88% sure that Tric is Town, yet Toonyman is relentlessly scumreading Tric.
I was willing to forgive it as a Famous town!Toony gambit, until this latest investigation by Toonyman.

I'm 88% sure Max is town.

@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.

This statement bothers me, because it doesn't seem to match with what you said to Tric.

Oh? I wanted to know Tric's intentions for firing their role name at that point.

Literally nobody questioned me when I said I was going to investigate 4mask or NQT early on in the day. Is this because players are terrified of being called ro-ro-role fishers? Grow up.

[EuchreJack]

I also find it suspicious that I'm like 88% sure that Tric is Town, yet Toonyman is relentlessly scumreading Tric.
I was willing to forgive it as a Famous town!Toony gambit, until this latest investigation by Toonyman.

I'm 88% sure Max is town.

@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.

This statement bothers me, because it doesn't seem to match with what you said to Tric.

Oh? I wanted to know Tric's intentions for firing their role name at that point.

Literally nobody questioned me when I said I was going to investigate 4mask or NQT early on in the day. Is this because players are terrified of being called ro-ro-role fishers? Grow up.

In my case, I sorta forgot that claim.

[ToonyMan]

What is saying you're a Warden mean? Do you plan on saying more or are you just saying that to sound authorative?

This was BAD Toony. Very Bad.

@Tric: My apologies, you in fact responded quite well to Toonyman.  Good job!

Screw you. My opinion on your reads is that they range from surprisingly accurate to complete ass, but you move around so much that your good reads only last for 5 seconds. And then after the game is over everyone is like "wow Jack you called the whole scum team" but town still lost and you only had that moment of clarity for a heart beat.

Let's think for a moment.

I don't like Tric but it's true I'm not 100% sure.

You don't like Max but you are also not 100% sure.

How can we best come out on top of this situation?

[Lenglon]

Toony:
What I'm saying is that this:

What is saying you're a Warden mean? Do you plan on saying more or are you just saying that to sound authorative?

and this:

@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.

Do not seem to match.

Your response:

@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.

This statement bothers me, because it doesn't seem to match with what you said to Tric.

Oh? I wanted to know Tric's intentions for firing their role name at that point.

Literally nobody questioned me when I said I was going to investigate 4mask or NQT early on in the day. Is this because players are terrified of being called ro-ro-role fishers? Grow up.

does not appear to address this, and instead seems to be attempting to direct attention elsewhere, to an argument that I did not make.

[EuchreJack]

What is saying you're a Warden mean? Do you plan on saying more or are you just saying that to sound authorative?

This was BAD Toony. Very Bad.

@Tric: My apologies, you in fact responded quite well to Toonyman.  Good job!

Screw you. My opinion on your reads is that they range from surprisingly accurate to complete ass, but you move around so much that your good reads only last for 5 seconds. And then after the game is over everyone is like "wow Jack you called the whole scum team" but town still lost and you only had that moment of clarity for a heart beat.

Let's think for a moment.

I don't like Tric but it's true I'm not 100% sure.

You don't like Max but you are also not 100% sure.

How can we best come out on top of this situation?

Ceasefire.

I'll agree not to vote Max if you agree not to vote Tric.

Since we are not voting Max or Tric, we'll both have to look at other targets.
I'll even stop voting you, if necessary.
Deal?

[ToonyMan]

I also find it suspicious that I'm like 88% sure that Tric is Town, yet Toonyman is relentlessly scumreading Tric.
I was willing to forgive it as a Famous town!Toony gambit, until this latest investigation by Toonyman.

I'm 88% sure Max is town.

@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.

This statement bothers me, because it doesn't seem to match with what you said to Tric.

Oh? I wanted to know Tric's intentions for firing their role name at that point.

Literally nobody questioned me when I said I was going to investigate 4mask or NQT early on in the day. Is this because players are terrified of being called ro-ro-role fishers? Grow up.

In my case, I sorta forgot that claim.

I'm positive scum took note of it, but said nothing. I'm obviously not going to clarify what I'm doing, but I had a very clear intention by saying what I did. This is what I want to know from Tric.

Toony:
What I'm saying is that this:

What is saying you're a Warden mean? Do you plan on saying more or are you just saying that to sound authorative?

and this:

@Jack:
Tric claimed Warden on his own there. I was questioning why he did such a thing. He has not acknowledged this yet.

Do not seem to match.

They do match? I'm asking why they claimed Warden.

[ToonyMan]

What is saying you're a Warden mean? Do you plan on saying more or are you just saying that to sound authorative?

This was BAD Toony. Very Bad.

@Tric: My apologies, you in fact responded quite well to Toonyman.  Good job!

Screw you. My opinion on your reads is that they range from surprisingly accurate to complete ass, but you move around so much that your good reads only last for 5 seconds. And then after the game is over everyone is like "wow Jack you called the whole scum team" but town still lost and you only had that moment of clarity for a heart beat.

Let's think for a moment.

I don't like Tric but it's true I'm not 100% sure.

You don't like Max but you are also not 100% sure.

How can we best come out on top of this situation?

Ceasefire.

I'll agree not to vote Max if you agree not to vote Tric.

Since we are not voting Max or Tric, we'll both have to look at other targets.
I'll even stop voting you, if necessary.
Deal?

Neither of us is voting Max or Tric and I don't care if you vote me. You piss me off like this most games as town so I'm not surprised and will get over it.

How about instead of deal, we put our heads together and find mafia.

I want to make an updated D1 reads list which I will also do when I get home.

[Lenglon]

Toony: The problem is you didn't ask "Why", you asked "What". "What does saying you're a Warden mean?" is not "Why did you say you're a Warden?"

Why is often used to ask for reasons.
What is often used to ask for implications.

Lets say that A -> B -> C

If you ask "Why B?" the answer is likely A.
If you ask "What B?" the answer is likely C.

You asked What. What is not Why. That is why your statement bothers me.

[Jim Groovester]

I'm busy at work still but I should be home before deadline.

I don't get Max's roleclaim. If it's true Max literally claimed the most damning part of their role rather than the parts of their role that might exonerate them in our eyes. "Ayy lmao I can get converted by the wolves/third party" isn't a ringing endorsement of leaving you alive.

So what's that make Max?

Hint: Not wolves/third party

Inclined to agree with this. I don't think Max is pulling this out of his ass, and if he is, great work to him.

If he's convertible then he's very likely not scum.

Even though I have very large reservations about how he's playing.

ToonyMan is rolefishing

Get out of here, literally not worth caring about even if it's true.

[Lenglon]

ToonyMan is rolefishing

Get out of here, literally not worth caring about even if it's true.

That seems reasonable to me.

[ToonyMan]

@Lenglon:
Fair enough, you are correct. I should have said why.