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[Jim Groovester]

Yes, stay away from my precious Vector. Not even Roden voted Vector after being voted by them.

HM?

Roden

Vector

NOT RELATED TO THIS COMMENT IN PARTICULAR BUT I HAD A THOUGHT THAT YOU'VE BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE ON DAY 1, TOONYMAN, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW I WANT TO FEEL ABOUT IT.

[ToonyMan]

I done goofed. My mind is a fog.

Roden makes a post after where they go into reasoning why they think Vector is town so I had forgotten he did vote Vector initially.

I did see this post as well where they had meta insight on two players, has this been followed up on yet? I don't believe so and it could be helpful!

[ToonyMan]

Knightwing/4mask would be my PoE...but, that feels way too easy.

Hey Max, what do you think? Do you think Roden is correct?

[Maximum Spin]

Knightwing/4mask would be my PoE...but, that feels way too easy.

Hey Max, what do you think? Do you think Roden is correct?

That Knightwing and 4mask are the mafia, or that it feels way too easy?

[EuchreJack]

Kinda awkward to cross examine someone on something they said a year ago, but http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=178730.msg8318961#msg8318961

I was trying to compare Town! Toonyman Day 1 to Mafia! Toonyman Day 1, and I came across the above quote from Town Toonyman.

@Toonyman: Would you say you have been threatened with elimination today? Would you say you have tried to go after your top suspect? WHO is your top suspect?

[ToonyMan]

Knightwing/4mask would be my PoE...but, that feels way too easy.

Hey Max, what do you think? Do you think Roden is correct?

That Knightwing and 4mask are the mafia, or that it feels way too easy?

Well whether you agreed or not would make which part to respond to easy, no?

@Toonyman: Would you say you have been threatened with elimination today? Would you say you have tried to go after your top suspect? WHO is your top suspect?

I haven't felt particularly threatened.

I haven't had a top suspect. I think I've been moving my vote more than normal. I'm trying to incorporate what other players have been saying in my judgement. For example, Roden clearing Vector and Jim clearing Tric have helped me decide on players I am uncertain of.

I am still unsure of 4mask, Max, and Knightwing. So if players want to help me and not respond to a question with another question to stall (like Max) then that would be nice.

[Maximum Spin]

That Knightwing and 4mask are the mafia, or that it feels way too easy?

Well whether you agreed or not would make which part to respond to easy, no?

No, it still seems kind of important since those two things are opposites. I can only agree with at most half the statement, since it expresses ambivalence, so I need to know which half you care about.

I guess there is a third option which is also the correct one, which is to say, I can neither confirm nor deny either of those two things; but that's not what you're looking for, right?

I've just finished reading a lot of psychoanalysis, and as a direct result I keep wanting to make everything about geese, so let me sum up instead: I think my vote is in the right place, so from my perspective, Roden is wrong for moving his. For everything else, please see prop. 7.

[ToonyMan]

You voted Vector because they're a double voter, right? I don't see how you can be content with that. You even said I could wipe that ability from Vector tonight if they're still alive, and I bet I could too. So that's it then? Sit on Vector? Hope it works out?

What are your thoughts on 4mask and Knightwing? And the Three Millers?

Jack has seemed doubtful of the other millers.
Jim and Roden have seemed fine with it?
4mask has specifically backed up Jim with psychoanalysis.

[EuchreJack]

A thought: In Totem Mafia 3, there were multiple vote manipulators.  Two double voters and a vote stealer.
We have three millers (of which probably at least two are legitimate?)

So...we might have another vote manipulator.  With that in mind, I would suggest building in an extra cushion for voting near hammer range.

[EuchreJack]

I think Jack obeying me is probably town too? They like to do that when we're town...

Jack with the constant unvoting is Town Jack. Sheeping too, not just you. Jack, who you sheeping? Or is Toony attempting to cement in your mind he's your shepherd?

I think the recent chronology was sheeping Jim, then sheeping Toonyman.
I think Toony is scum, so I'm currently shepardless.

I'd sheep Vector if they posted something decent.

[ToonyMan]

Jack, do you believe Jim and Roden?

[EuchreJack]

Jack, do you believe Jim and Roden?

Jim yes. I believe we are seeing Town!Jim.
Suspicious of Roden.  Which is more a complement of Roden's scumplay than anything else.  At least for Day 1, Roden is relatively similar as town or mafia.

[EuchreJack]

@Roden: What are your reasons for suspecting 4maskwolf?

[EuchreJack]

I will say this though: two specific players feel a little off. It's a meta read, and the game still barely just started, so I won't say who they are yet since I don't want to tip them off. If it persists, I'll say who they are before the day ends.

Oh, are we nearing the point where we get an answer to this? 

[ToonyMan]

If you think I'm scum and suspect Roden then don't you think there's a pretty high likelihood it's the two of us then? From your POV you even know there's two other players with a similar miller claim. Why were you willing to vote Vector before? Is that a third pick?

Listen, if you think I'm mafia then sheep Jim. You believe Jim over Roden which I believe is the correct choice from your POV, and I think it's extremely unlikely he's mafia if you're town.

Jim is wrong about Vector. Vector is town. If you don't believe me then why did you unvote Vector for me?