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[NAV]

Designs:
None (1): Shadowclaw

Projects:
Vanguard Cannon (2): 3 Die: Shadowclaw, NAV
Signal Flashers (2): 1 Die: Shadowclaw, NAV
Verticals Envelopment

Why not a viper on the flag, cause our viper ships? What does a lion have to do with kasgyre, and lions are so generic.

[BBBence1111]

Designs:
None (1): Shadowclaw

Projects:
Vanguard Cannon (2): 3 Die: Shadowclaw, NAV
Signal Flashers (2): 1 Die: Shadowclaw, NAV
Verticals Envelopment

Why not a viper on the flag, cause our viper ships? What does a lion have to do with kasgyre, and lions are so generic.

The lioness symbolises our Queen. Besides that, I don't know, but I also like thr second design. I also said we might want snakes on it, but noone on discord agreed (or disagreed) and one animal is more than enough. I strongly oppose anything even vaguely spider shaped.

[Draignean]

I'll probably try and run the turn tomorrow, before noon, so that's your timeline for finishing the vote.

[NAV]

that...doesn't really give ample time for arguing about revisons and stuff.
Any animal we want can symbolize our queen. Cats are generic and boring and overused.

[Draignean]

that...doesn't really give ample time for arguing about revisons and stuff.
Any animal we want can symbolize our queen. Cats are generic and boring and overused.

Err, by run the turn, I mean, process your designs. Your revisions will still be another day at least, then another day  or more again for the actual production and deployment.

Sorry, I'm a bad person and use phase/turn too interchangeably.

[Taricus]

Designs:
None (1): Shadowclaw

Projects:
Vanguard Cannon (2): 3 Dice: Shadowclaw, NAV
Signal Flashers (3): 1 Die: Shadowclaw, NAV, Taricus
Verticals Envelopment (1): 3 Dice: Taricus

The vanguard cannon is nice, but there's no point in completing it before we have the ships to mount it on.

[Jerick]

Spoiler: even more flag options (click to show/hide)

Option 3 (switched out lioness for Viper and brightened blue a few shades for better contrast)

Option 4

I tried something different with this flag. I designed it with more of an eye to symbolism than the others. Blue is the colour of the sky, which is by right ours and patrolled and guarded by our Vipers. Green is the colour of the fields and trees of our Spire and the images of the spiders are reminders of our past victories and hardships against the monstrous menace who followed us into our Spire and once threatened our very existence only to be beaten by the ever victorious Kasgyr! Purple is the colour of royalty and stands above it all.

Crown: Yes
Colours: yes
Fancy: yes!

It still needs a very fancy gold border, and I would replace the cat with a spider. What do cats have to do with Kasgyre?

Putting in fancy borders breaks one of the cardinal rules of flag making which is to cut down on visual noise. It's already more visually complex than a flag really should be (but hey we're Kasgyr we tend to have things ostentatious past the point of practicality ). But borders are either so small they can't be seen from a distance or so imposing they clutter the flag.
 Remember most people will be seeing it like this: rather than the big imposing versions I'm posting in the spoiler. So in the interest of keeping the flag visible I probably won't be adding gilded borders. Replacing the lioness with something else however is something I'm happy to do. I may do the snake+cat thing on my next pass.

Designs:
None (1): Shadowclaw

Projects:
Vanguard Cannon (2): 3 Dice: Shadowclaw, NAV
Signal Flashers (4): 1 Die: Shadowclaw, NAV, Taricus, Jerick
Verticals Envelopment (2): 3 Dice: Taricus, Jerick

As for voting I think we should put some dice into envelopment, we need to actually capture some territory in TC. And I know I seem to say this every turn but I suspect we'll see a push from the enemy this turn. There's been too many turns of peace. They are going to move in force to either the Unfinished or TC this turn.

[BBBence1111]

Spoiler: even more flag options (click to show/hide)

Option 3 (switched out lioness for Viper and brightened blue a few shades for better contrast)

Option 4

I tried something different with this flag. I designed it with more of an eye to symbolism than the others. Blue is the colour of the sky, which is by right ours and patrolled and guarded by our Vipers. Green is the colour of the fields and trees of our Spire and the images of the spiders are reminders of our past victories and hardships against the monstrous menace who followed us into our Spire and once threatened our very existence only to be beaten by the ever victorious Kasgyr! Purple is the colour of royalty and stands above it all.

Crown: Yes
Colours: yes
Fancy: yes!

It still needs a very fancy gold border, and I would replace the cat with a spider. What do cats have to do with Kasgyre?

Putting in fancy borders breaks one of the cardinal rules of flag making which is to cut down on visual noise. It's already more visually complex than a flag really should be (but hey we're Kasgyr we tend to have things ostentatious past the point of practicality ). But borders are either so small they can't be seen from a distance or so imposing they clutter the flag.
 Remember most people will be seeing it like this: rather than the big imposing versions I'm posting in the spoiler. So in the interest of keeping the flag visible I probably won't be adding gilded borders. Replacing the lioness with something else however is something I'm happy to do. I may do the snake+cat thing on my next pass.

Designs:
None (1): Shadowclaw

Projects:
Vanguard Cannon (2): 3 Dice: Shadowclaw, NAV
Signal Flashers (4): 1 Die: Shadowclaw, NAV, Taricus, Jerick
Verticals Envelopment (2): 3 Dice: Taricus, Jerick

As for voting I think we should put some dice into envelopment, we need to actually capture some territory in TC. And I know I seem to say this every turn but I suspect we'll see a push from the enemy this turn. There's been too many turns of peace. They are going to move in force to either the Unfinished or TC this turn.

That snake doesn't seem to be in the middle. Besides that, I like it. I am opposed to anything involving spiders.

[Jerick]

God damn it, you're right. Now that I'm looking at it the crown isn't properly centered either. Hows this?

Spoiler: revised option 3 (click to show/hide)

[Taricus]

I quite like flag option 2. All the regalness of a lion, only we got the one that actually does hard work

[Jerick]

I have revised all the options a bit, re centered the crown, increased the contrast so it doesn't look so muted and fixed a single white pixel that had earlier escaped my notice.

Spoiler: All the revised options (click to show/hide)

(See if you can spot the pixel )
Option 1

Option 2

Option 3

Option 5

[Kashyyk]

Designs:
None (1): Shadowclaw

Projects:
Vanguard Cannon (2): 3 Dice: Shadowclaw, NAV
Signal Flashers (4): 1 Die: Shadowclaw, NAV, Taricus, Jerick
Verticals Envelopment (2): 3 Dice: Taricus, Jerick

Dear lord, three dice into Vertical Envelopment? That's 48 COWS. Do you realise how expensive that is?


Can I also, again, suggest we vote for things as discrete plans rather than this FPTP nonsense? Something like the following:

[2] Vanguard Cannon (3 dice, 6c, 6o) + Signal Flashers (1 die, 2w) + bank 2 dice: Shadowclaw, NAV
[2] Vertical Envelopment (3 dice, 9c, 9o, 15w, 15s) + Signal Flashers (1 die, 2w) + bank 2 dice: Shadowclaw, NAV
[1] Vertical Envelopment (1 dice, 1 rush, 3c, 3o, 5w, 5s) + Signal Flashers (1 die, 2w) + bank 4 dice: Kashyyk

New Projects:
None...

Flags
[] Option 1:
[1] Option 2: Kashyyk
[1] Option 3: Kashyyk
[] Option 4:
[] Option 5:

[Taricus]

Yes, but rushing into that isn't going to help anyone and we need the doctrine badly. That being said, we can use the silk to cover the optional stuff since we have so much of it that we're not using.

[Draignean]

The rolls are coming. Stand by to stand by.

Unless you all complain loudly that you need more time. In which case I'll probably listen.

... [End of copy Pasta]

Well, actually, I'd like to reward you for putting up that sensible and imminently likable new votebox, so have some more time to implement that while I watch X-COM: WotC let's plays.

[helmacon]

+ 1 to plan 1
+ 1 to flag 2