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Total Members Voted: 106

[Kashyyk]

We could replace the underpowered diesel turbines with the oil-fired steam turbines in the Cataphract. That should get a bit more speed out of the thing, but we don't necessarily need it to be super-fast. It's designed for brutal slugfests after all. When supported by Cataphtacts and Archers the Vodkatoria will perform quite well in a shoot out, which is why we stole it in the first place.

[helmacon]

Personally, I think we ought to use the revision on steam catapults to replace the rocket catapults, and use the design to vastly improve the Victoria. Combined, this might even swing the naval advantage to us for a change. We can do radar later, when it will be more needed.

[NAV]

Rocket powered ekranoplane battlecruiser. Next turn.

[VoidSlayer]

Rocket powered ekranoplane battlecruiser. Next turn.

Nah, orbital battle cruiser.  We can bomb the allies and axis from orbit and take over the world, forget the pirates.

[piratejoe]

Better idea, Battleship aircraft carrier next turn

[Powder Miner]

RDN-41-3 "DEADLIEST RAY": (14) NUKE9.13, Jilladilla, evictedSaint, Madman198237, Happerry, NAV, Stabby, 3_14159, Andrea, Chiefwaffles, SMMI, Kashyyk, Kot, Powder Miner

It occurs to me I never actually voted for this

[evictedSaint]

Got bored, wrote up a preemptive revision for our stolen Victoria

UFN-BC-41 "Storm Dragon"
Named after the brave Salamander Team who stole the designs out from under Cannala's nose, the United Forenian Navy Battle Cruiser "Storm Dragon" is an overhauled version of Cannala's Victoria-class Battle Cruiser.

The most obvious changes are switching all the dimensions over to metric rather than the crude English system that Cannala uses and making the components easy to manufacture, eliminating the [Complex] nature.

Next we switch the armament over to equipment we have available to install.  Overcompensators are installed in the three available turret spots in pairs, giving the main battery of the ship 6x300 mm cannons with optional rocket-boosted shells.  The fire control system is carried over from the Victoria and integrated with our crude UF-RTS-41 'Long Shot' targeting system, made possible by the installation of the ships very own dedicated "Deadliest Ray" Radar System. 

The diesel-electric engines are converted over to our more powerful Oil-Fired Steam Turbine engine system, which should allow for faster speeds than the preceding Victoria.

The six Firecracker-style AA turrets are replaced with Bumblebees, as we unfortunately didn't get the fuse-setting technology when stealing the ship, though they are likewise on a separate director system.

The 12 Can Shredder PD cannons are replaced with our faster-firing but smaller-caliber UF-AC-41 Velociraptor 20 mm cannons.

The torpedo launchers are removed and the turrets are replaced with our own Sahruk Rocket Artillery, in order to have an emplacement ready for the eventual development of Anti-Shipping Missiles.

Lastly, we move that one beam five feet forward to prevent the entire ship from collapsing.

[NAV]

THat doesnt say what to do with the dorpedoes cqnnalans stuck on there.
Replace, remove, or rocket!?

[Taricus]

Remove them, they're just a hazard.

[NAV]

Also decomplexing and switching all the weapons over and upgrading the engine and adding deck armour seems like too much for a Revision.

[evictedSaint]

Not too much for a 6.

But rolling less means we wont get it all, anyways.

[Madman198237]

Better idea: Re-equip the Victoria with our guns in the revision, and spend the design on a battleship the Cannalans can't match.
Here's the revision:

UFN-BC-41 Vodka
The Victoria is, as per usual, somewhat....poorly made. In order to correct that, we take accurate measurements and use the proper bolts to remove the [Complex]ities of the design. Also, all Cannalan weapons and other pieces of equipment, such as the radar, are replaced with our equivalents as much as possible, to streamline training and such. Their torpedo launchers, however, being useless in a battleship, are replaced with Velociraptor autocannons in mountings capable of hitting both torpedo boats and aircraft.

And then next turn we design the

UFN-BB-41 Victorious
This development of the Victoria turns that underengineered piece of Cannalan driftwood into a fighting ship. A true floating fortress if ever there was on, this ship is given a splinter-deck armor arrangement of deck armor capable of staving off an average 16-inch shell at maximum plunging penetration, a heavy citadel like the Victoria's, and a medium torpedo belt to keep the crappy Cannalan torpedoes off our ships. The hull is longer than the Victoria to improve speed, and the engines are our best engines ever produced, based around the Cataphract's propulsion system but improved in every conceivable way. The hull is both longer and wider (Due to the firepower upgrades) and the extra space is almost all used for additional engine horsepower. For firepower, the ship is re-equipped with three dual 390mm guns, controlled by a central director-firing system that acquires information both from a radar set and long-base rangefinders on the roof of every turret, in case of radar failure. A second radar system, optimized for detecting aircraft, is also provided. The ship carries 8 dual 100mm gun turrets as a dual-purpose antiaircraft/antiship weapon, has a massive number of antiaircraft guns of all our available calibers.

[evictedSaint]

Or we spend the revision making it a decent battleship this turn and use our freshly-designed pocket radar to build ASM's >.>

[Madman198237]

The one we don't have?

The battleship we can't build in a single revision? Come on eS, you KNOW that that's a design and not a revision and trying it is not worth the risk of leaving the Victoria [Complex].

If we have Expensive Vodkas, we can win against their VE Victorias, regardless of their superior seamanship.

[evictedSaint]

If that revision doesn't result in it losing the [Complex] tag, then it's because Sensei is deliberately fucking with us.

The only thing that's questionable about the revision is the armor change (which I've removed).  Everything else is just slapping our existing equipment on our new ship - which is well within the bounds of a revision.  If all we ask for is "no longer [Complex]" then that's all we'll get if we roll a 6.  If we ask for more and roll less than that, we'll get "It's no longer [Complex], but you don't get x y and z".