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[spazyak]

Sorry, really tired right now.

[Ozarck]

This looks like a combat system for mostly one v one battles, player v player and team v team (like the game cannon fodder). I expected a slightly more freeform system, due to the likely variety in opponents to be faced.

I'm sure it will work fine for this though, speeding up gameplay and all. It certainly makes the game drastically different in feel from ER and infinite heavens. I haven't played other PW games, so I don't know about perplexicon or the others as much.

[piecewise]

Sorry, really tired right now.

S'allright

I'm gonna do these turns in a very mechanical way, lacking any real description, because I just wanna see how the system works. One thing I've noticed is that we're gonna have to say move in or out in relation to who.

Spoiler: Hand (click to show/hide)

Aggressive stance, lunge at Spazyak's head, crippling blow his arm, then attack his arm (the same one I crippling blow'd) twice. Finally, parry.

starting hand

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Aggressive stance
 move in
Cleave at whispering aiming for leg
Parry
Heavy attack for Arm

Up dated, sorry P-dubz

And here's my first hand:

• Startup
• Quick Draw-Whisperling-Torso
• Move out
• Attack-spazyak-arm
• Defend

Whisperling and Spaz take an aggressive stance while Egan sheathes his blade.

Spaz moves in, I'm gonna assume toward whispering. Not sure why he would do this because he has a range advantage over whisperling so he's doing nothing but remove that. Egan has range advantage on whispering, so his attack happens first. Whisperling dodges 2 of the hits, but gets hit by one to the torso. At this point I realize I forgot to even tell you how much hp your bodies have. It's 3 for head, 5 for arms, 12 for torso, 7 for legs.  So whisperling's torso is now at 10 hp. Whisperling does lunge, rolls 2+1, moves in 1, and beats spaz's defense roll, but doesn't have a high enough roll to beat the min requirement for a head hit. Thanks to spaz's move in this puts spaz and whispering at zero range.

 Egan moves out, unassumingly in relation to whisperling, though it doesn't matter.  Whispering's attack roll is 2,  Spaz's is 5, so he goes first. Whisperling rolls 5 for defense and so avoids damage. Spaz rolls 6 and avoids damage as well.

Spaz does a parry, while both egan and Whisperling attack him. They both roll 2, he rolls 6, successfully parrying both of them.

Both Egan and Whisperling are stunned, so Spaz gets to attack unopposed. He does a heavy attack on an arm...though I don't know whose arm. Probably Whisperling. He gets 5, and so does 4 damage to whisperling's arm. Whisperling has a -1 to attack now.

Spaz, your first instance next turn is recovery, due to the heavy attack this time.





Ok, next round.

This looks like a combat system for mostly one v one battles, player v player and team v team (like the game cannon fodder). I expected a slightly more freeform system, due to the likely variety in opponents to be faced.

I'm sure it will work fine for this though, speeding up gameplay and all. It certainly makes the game drastically different in feel from ER and infinite heavens. I haven't played other PW games, so I don't know about perplexicon or the others as much.

Really I'm just messing with things right now, this is in no way the finished thing.

The thing is I would have a much more freeform system but...I can't. I can't run a huge game 55 people sitting around with nothing to do as our 5 man team fights for 3 weeks.

[spazyak]

My turn

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. Recover
2. Move out
3. parry egan
4. attack Whisperling At his head.
5. Defensive stance

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[Egan_BW]

Spoiler: MILITARY SECRETS KEEP OUT (click to show/hide)

Defensive stance
Counter Blow
Wait (regain Quick Draw, Counter Blow)
Aggressive Stance
Setup for Quick Draw

[piecewise]

Oh thats right, whisperling was in an aggressive stance! He actually lost that arm then, because he took +1 extra damage.

Not looking good for whisperling.

[Egan_BW]

Oh, did I not use up an attack card last turn (instance 4) because I was stunned?

[syvarris]

Spoiler: @Spaz (Private, BTW) (click to show/hide)

You fixed things before I could critique your mistakes!
 
First, parry isn't targeted.  Second, there is no player named "Ego"--you probably mean Egan.  Third, you need to specify what part of him you're attacking; I recommend the leg, so that landing Cleave is easier.

Moving out is a complete waste of time, as it only helps you hit a person better.  You're not hitting Whisperling, and Egan has the same range as you, so it does nothing.

Spoiler: @Egan (Also private) (click to show/hide)

That heavy attack is a poor idea.  It can only land on a five or six (due to your and Spazy's stances).  Also, it means that your first action next turn will have at least a 66% chance to be a stun, which grants you -2 def.  Remember how Spazy has an ability that instantly removes a limb if his attack roll is 2 points higher?  He effectively has to land a standard attack during a stun, and he'll know when you're stunned.  On that note, if you land an attack against Spaz as your first action, you get +1 damage.

Beyond that, just not taking a defensive stance and making multiple standard attacks would work far better.  He's aggressive, so that gives you 2+1 damage, and you'll roll more times if you just make standard attacks.

Finally, waiting is a waste.  You have to leave defensive stance to benefit from it being in your deck, and as I said above, it isn't useful anyway.  Counter blow is literally the crappiest ability of any weapon and you should feel bad for using it because it's just as hard to time as a parry, has less benefit, is harder to land, and has more of a penalty if you miss.

Spoiler: @Piecewise (Not private at all, he just made an oopsie) (click to show/hide)

Edit: nevermind, he caught his error!  Good Piecewise.

Look at me, analyzing a forum game in depth while I have an essay due tomorrow today.

[Egan_BW]

Spoiler: @syv (click to show/hide)

auoip, regaining Defencive stance was a tyop, meant to regain Quick Draw.
And jeez, tear apart every point of my unenlightened "strategy", will you?

[piecewise]

Oh, did I not use up an attack card last turn (instance 4) because I was stunned?

Yep, stunned replaces the card, doesn't use it up.

[Egan_BW]

Spoiler: @syv (click to show/hide)

Also, in case you're curious about my deck:

Quick Draw
Quick Draw
Counter Blow
Attack
Attack
Attack
Attack
Attack
Attack
Attack
Defend
Defend
Defend
Move out
Move out
Move out
Parry
Parry
Feint
Heavy attack
Heavy attack
Heavy attack
Aggressive Stance
Aggressive Stance
Defensive stance
Defensive stance
Normal stance
Normal stance
Normal stance
Normal stance

[Whisperling]

Well.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Crippling blow at Spaz's arm, defensive stance, feint (at his leg, if I need to specify a target for that), wait (regenerate lunge and attack), attack his arm *2.

[piecewise]

Well.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Crippling blow at Spaz's arm, defensive stance, feint (at his leg, if I need to specify a target for that), wait (regenerate lunge and attack), attack his arm *2.

Spoiler: MILITARY SECRETS KEEP OUT (click to show/hide)

Defensive stance
Counter Blow
Wait (regain Quick Draw, Counter Blow)
Aggressive Stance
Setup for Quick Draw

My turn

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. Recover
2. Move out
3. parry egan
4. attack Whisperling At his head.
5. Defensive stance

[/b]

So Egan enters a defensive stance, not a bad idea. Spaz recovers from his quite successful cleave, and Whisperling attacks with crippling blow. Unfortunately he rolls a 1-1 so ain't no one getting hit.

Whisperling goes into a defensive stance, a good idea for someone with only one arm.  Egan attempts to do a counter blow on no one, so his next instance becomes recovery instead of wait. Spaz moves out, putting some range between himself and whispering, getting the range advantage back.

Spaz does a parry against whisperling's feint. They tie in attack and defense so nothing happens. Egan recovers.

Whisperling waits, regening lunge and attack.  Egan goes into an aggressive stance. Spaz attacks  whisperling, aiming for the head. He succeeds, dealing 2 damage rather than three thanks to whisperling's defensive stance. Still, it replaces whisperling's next instance with stun.

Spaz enters a defensive stance, Egan sheathes his weapon, and Whisperling spends the turn stunned from the blow to the head.

So far, the only one injured is whisperling, who has one arm missing, 1/3 head hp and 10/12 torso hp.
Spaz and whisperling are in defensive stances +1, egan in an aggressive stance.




I've spotted a problem with defensive stance. Namely that weapons that deal 1 damage can't get around it. As such, I'm gonna clarify that both it and aggressive stance have -1 and +1 damage taken per instance, so that 1 damage weapons that attack multiple times an instance (like the knife) can do damage.

[NJW2000]

Stances summary appears confused: who is in which stance?

Just noting for clarity

[spazyak]

My turn

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. attack at Whisperling's head
2. Feign attack at Egan
3. attack Egan's leg
4. move out
5. wait and regen Hack