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[TheBiggerFish]

It's the fact that my weakness role is so much less weak than his.

He's apparently unable to vote at all.

That just makes no sense.

[hector13]

I guess you can't really ask him about that, but what about it doesn't make sense? (I have suspicions of your thinking, but I'md like to have you say it)

[FallacyofUrist]

In other news, I'm a hippy.
Bloody town weakness roles.

If I could vote, I'd be less willing to vote. If I'm correct about how the voting system works, wounds are not erased at the end of a night phase... meaning any wound somebody inflicts stays until the person wounded dies.
BUT I CAN'T VOTE BECAUSE I'M A BLOODY HIPPIE.

Not sure why you say you "claimed" hippy. You literally did claim hippy, two times. With two different spellings.

I would call "hippie" or "hippy" a nickname for pacifist.
Much like "hippie" or "hippy" is a nickname for an elf.
In any case, sorry for not being clear.

[TheBiggerFish]

I cannot believe he's that weak.  As a Town Weakness myself, that doesn't seem like it's on the same par of underpoweredness as me.

And there's the two damage voter that nobody has claimed.

Which is odd, because you could claim that as town.

[TheBiggerFish]

And WHY DID YOU EVEN USE A NICKNAME IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

[FallacyofUrist]

And WHY DID YOU EVEN USE A NICKNAME IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

Humor. I found it funny.

[TheBiggerFish]

Who do you think is the doublevoter?

[hector13]

FoU

In other news, I'm a hippy.
Bloody town weakness roles.

If I could vote, I'd be less willing to vote. If I'm correct about how the voting system works, wounds are not erased at the end of a night phase... meaning any wound somebody inflicts stays until the person wounded dies.
BUT I CAN'T VOTE BECAUSE I'M A BLOODY HIPPIE.

Not sure why you say you "claimed" hippy. You literally did claim hippy, two times. With two different spellings.

I would call "hippie" or "hippy" a nickname for pacifist.
Much like "hippie" or "hippy" is a nickname for an elf.
In any case, sorry for not being clear.

But that's the thing: you were clear. You said you were a hippy. Twice. Then changed your mind.

Using a personal association (hippy = pacifist) in a game in which intent and meaning is oh so bloody important... I don't buy it.


TBF

I cannot believe he's that weak.  As a Town Weakness myself, that doesn't seem like it's on the same par of underpoweredness as me.

And there's the two damage voter that nobody has claimed.

Which is odd, because you could claim that as town.

Well I was hoping you would say something that being unable to vote in a round in which voting is like an attack isn't sensible. Normally town's only power is their vote... Doesn't make sense that they wouldn't be able to do it.


However, perhaps that is where the theft thing comes in: vote stealing, rather than role stealing. Or I'm completely wrong in that respect. When not everyone votes, it does make it difficult to know if it happened. Though vote stealing might not work, flavour-wise...

[TheBiggerFish]

That was also a thought.

[FallacyofUrist]

Okay then.
For the purposes of this simulation/imagination, I'm going to assume the double voter is scum.
~~~
FallacyofUrist: I can rule myself out. That leaves you, Starver, The Moonlit Shadow, and hector13.
~~~
So let's list claims...

I'm the Historian.

So you're saying you don't know who wounds you?

Yes.  Thus Weakness.

Specifically, an auto. I'll claim Special, maybe to narrow it down.

If it's for a particular role you've already told us most of it. If not all of it. And you claim that's not all of it.

I haven't told you anything about my auto, other than it makes me suspect there's a thief/Evil role can steal things.

I'm Special. Someone's lying.

Politician. I can 'cower', which makes all votes against me the next day do nothing. It's a day action.

No claim.

To summarize:
FallacyofUrist(pacifist, can't vote)
TheBiggerFish(historian, doesn't know who voted him/her)
hector13(, has an auto that makes him suspect that there's a thief)
The Moonlit Shadow(Politician, can cower which makes all votes against him the next day do nothing, has not claimed if it's a shotted ability)
Starver( nothing at all?)

So who do I think is the double voter?
I can remove myself from the pool of possibilities.
That leaves you, hector, TMS, and Starver.
I'm inclined to believe TMS is a Neutral survivor and not a town player. I may be wrong, but assuming I'm right, that leaves you, hector, and Starver.
Of you three, I'm going to remove hector for good scum hunting, logic... and basically, not scummy behavior. That leaves you and Starver.
Of you two... I can't decide, because Starver really hasn't been active enough for me to decide if he's scum or not. Plus, he hasn't claimed.

[Starver]

It would be ironic if a vote was stolen from someone who didn't vote...

Exact wording of the ability would be critical as to whether a non-vote would still be used, would actually be used alongside the regular vote of the thief or (because it wasn't used) wasn't available to steal (i.e. redirect...).

That's if a 'vote thief' even is a thing.  Yeah, flavour doesn't look like it'd support it.  Other (related) possibilities have been mentioned, though, and I'm thinking about them right now.  (Not yet ready to get back to the maths, though. That needs something else I'm currently missing, I'm sure.)


(Oh, it appears that it's not just Hector who apparently doesn't read things that were said...)

[TheBiggerFish]

Starver:Did you vote?  Who did you vote for?

[Starver]

Already?

[TheBiggerFish]

Just say yes or no unambiguously please.

[hector13]

Everyone: did I vote for you?