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[Loud Whispers]

Isn't that the fellow who got into a spot of trouble recently by propositioning a 16-year-old boy for "I want to fuck you sex sex sex"?

Look, sure he sounds like a creep when you take that sentence out of context. But also if you take it with context.

Real world tales are bound by no obligation to be believable


*EDIT
Germany has just befallen the greatest art heist in a century, as thieves loot numerous irreplaceable items of HRE heritage. With a material value of a billion euros - it is likely the priceless items will be broken down, melted and resold, never to be seen again

*EDITx2
British "socialite" Lady Colin Campbell defends Prince Andrew & Epstein, saying soliciting sex from minors is prostitution, not paedophilia. As punishment, christmas lights onning privileges are revoked. This some semantic voodoo

[scriver]

As far as I know people are usually considered to be in charge of their own consent earlier than the age of majority in most places. Soliciting sex from minors are usually seen as a particularly heinous crime even if the minor is past the age of consent.

So yeah. Even if it's not technically paedophilia because the girl in primce Andrew's case wasn't a 14-year-old (and I have no idea what age the girl in question was, I'm just assuming here) you're still coming off as trying to cover up the fact that he solicited sex from a minor behind a curtain of "but it's not the exact worst case scenario Epstein was accused of you guys" seems like a perty weak defense.

[TD1]

Perhaps the wrong place to put this, but it's tangentially relevant. There's a socially-accepted relationship rule of half your age plus seven. He was 50 at the time, so he can get a 32 yo according to this rule.

Using this incredibly rough tool, we see what was already obvious. That fella was outta line. Ofc the rule ssems flawed too.

I'm 23, and that means I can date an 18.5 yo. I wonder whether that would be socially accepted though?

A bit of a garbled argument here, but I'm on phone so not gonna fix it XD

[Reelya]

I'm 23, and that means I can date an 18.5 yo. I wonder whether that would be socially accepted though?

Literally nobody over that age gives the first shit if a 23 year old and an 18 year old are going out. The age different might seem big when you are that age but not many older people actually discern you as being that much older.

Perhaps the wrong place to put this, but it's tangentially relevant. There's a socially-accepted relationship rule of half your age plus seven. He was 50 at the time, so he can get a 32 yo according to this rule.

I think he was 40 at the time, not 50: it was 2001 and he's 59 now. So ~27 by the rule not 32.

[Loud Whispers]

So yeah. Even if it's not technically paedophilia because the girl in primce Andrew's case wasn't a 14-year-old (and I have no idea what age the girl in question was, I'm just assuming here) you're still coming off as trying to cover up the fact that he solicited sex from a minor behind a curtain of "but it's not the exact worst case scenario Epstein was accused of you guys" seems like a perty weak defense.

Bearing in mind there was not just 1 girl, Epstein was running a whole ring with at least 80 girls, usually age 12-14. Epstein was also in the business of filming his friends having sex with children so as to have blackmail material on them later. To have the blackmail hold legal teeth on Prince Andrew the girls would have to at least be younger than 16. Pity Epstein died when he did, there's so much more we don't know yet.

Neat breakdown of Andrew's trainwreck of an interview where he stumbles over his own lies. He's accused of having sex with eight girls, one of which who has come forward publicly to say she was trafficked into sex. We also know Andrew visited Epstein by his own admission at least 3 times a year, and continued to stay at his mansion for week long stays after he knew Epstein was convicted of a lesser charge (prostitution) to his known crimes (sex with minors, human trafficking), supposedly to tell Epstein face to face that they could not associate with one another any longer.

Now you obviously don't want to shout fire just because there's smoke, but that's a shit ton of smoke with some embers and heat coming out the oven. We can pray that this'll bleed over onto Trump and Clinton

[TD1]

I'm 23, and that means I can date an 18.5 yo. I wonder whether that would be socially accepted though?

Literally nobody over that age gives the first shit if a 23 year old and an 18 year old are going out. The age different might seem big when you are that age but not many older people actually discern you as being that much older.

Perhaps the wrong place to put this, but it's tangentially relevant. There's a socially-accepted relationship rule of half your age plus seven. He was 50 at the time, so he can get a 32 yo according to this rule.

I think he was 40 at the time, not 50: it was 2001 and he's 59 now. So ~27 by the rule not 32.

Whoops, I read it as 2010.

Also, interesting about the age convention thing. There actually is an 18 year old trying to get my attention, but I assumed that was a weird difference in ages. Like, I just finished Uni and she's about to start, for instance.

[Doomblade187]

I'm 23, and that means I can date an 18.5 yo. I wonder whether that would be socially accepted though?

Literally nobody over that age gives the first shit if a 23 year old and an 18 year old are going out. The age different might seem big when you are that age but not many older people actually discern you as being that much older.

Perhaps the wrong place to put this, but it's tangentially relevant. There's a socially-accepted relationship rule of half your age plus seven. He was 50 at the time, so he can get a 32 yo according to this rule.

I think he was 40 at the time, not 50: it was 2001 and he's 59 now. So ~27 by the rule not 32.

Whoops, I read it as 2010.

Also, interesting about the age convention thing. There actually is an 18 year old trying to get my attention, but I assumed that was a weird difference in ages. Like, I just finished Uni and she's about to start, for instance.

It really boils down to power dynamics - you don't want to be in a relationship where one partner has far more power than the other. I doubt that would be the case in this instance, but that's my thought.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

So everybody excited to get confirmation that B O I R I S is going to sell the NHS to American healthcare cartels during Brexit? I mean, anybody with three or more neurons could have just assumed that was true from the start, but its nice to have it on paper.

[Kagus]

So everybody excited to get confirmation that B O I R I S is going to sell the NHS to American healthcare cartels during Brexit? I mean, anybody with three or more neurons could have just assumed that was true from the start, but its nice to have it on paper.

Well, I mean, it's nice that Trump gets a consolation gift after Denmark was mean and didn't let him buy Greenland.

[Loud Whispers]

So everybody excited to get confirmation that B O I R I S is going to sell the NHS to American healthcare cartels during Brexit? I mean, anybody with three or more neurons could have just assumed that was true from the start, but its nice to have it on paper.

No; to say it is Boris would be overly optimistic. I'm afraid it's the conservative party, & indeed the American healthcare system itself, which is seeking the privatisation of the NHS. Boris will be here today and gone tomorrow and we still will face this threat

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Boris is just a man. B O R I S however is a blood printed god, the flesh and bone of the isles. He has always been here, beneath the mists that the Druids dare not walk. He will always be here, his corruption echoing through the minds of his children for eternity.

[TD1]

Is there an article on this?

[ChairmanPoo]

For what it's worth, given the structure of the NHS I dont think you're facing an overt privatization. More likely they'll try something like the Alzira model, aka "externalizing hospital management". Which is... bullshit tbh, but is certainly reversible. In fact the original Alzira hospital was reverted back a while ago


Edit: a quick search shows that there are several webpages of people lobbying to apply the alzira model to the nhs. Surprise surprise

[Loud Whispers]

Boris is just a man. B O R I S however is a blood printed god, the flesh and bone of the isles. He has always been here, beneath the mists that the Druids dare not walk. He will always be here, his corruption echoing through the minds of his children for eternity.

M A G N A   B O R I S   B A N T R

Is there an article on this?

Labour has obtained official documents showing that the US is demanding that the NHS will be “on the table” in talks on a post-Brexit trade deal, Jeremy Corbyn has said.

It's from Corbyn who has an axe to grind with the tories, so take it with a grain of salt, but it's not exactly a controversial idea that the conservatives are getting lobbied to privatise the NHS. Going back to David Cameron times, advisors to senior tories tended to walk in and out of a revolving door of health companies, government advisory roles & health lobbying firms

[TD1]

Surely Le Boris De Johnson knows that it would be political suicide?