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[Sheb]

Detailed numbers on the NYE Gropefest. Mostly Algerians and Morrocans.

[Loud Whispers]

Detailed numbers on the NYE Gropefest. Mostly Algerians and Morrocans.

Pure coincidence

[Sheb]

Yeah, seems so, it was a coincidence unrelated to the massive arrivals of Syrians.

[scriver]

Most of the "refugees" were neither refugees nor from Syria.

[Sergarr]

From the ISIS thread:

Right, and 'theres no Russian ground troops there either, nope, we have no bases there, nothing, nope, nada, zilch, zero'.

I wonder if he has the same opinion of a Russian or Iranian led coalition of ground troops?

Yeah and those T-90s they didnt even bother to paint over again with a non-russian-olive paint totally came from India probably too. Elsewhere, Medvedev also said yesterday that theres nothing Russia could do to stop asylum seekers from reaching Finland. Yeah right, theres been about 15/year(political or sex minority reasons), now suddenly thousand+ in a month from literally day after when border controls were returned to Finnish-Swedish border. We get more asylum seekers in a day from Russia that we used to get in a year. Totally a coincident, nothing can be done!

http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/a1455243940968

We should just terminate "negotiations", announce that Russia is a safe country, and stop everyone without a visa from getting in, but as before nobody in the government has the guts to do it.

You should start with Germany first, lol. Thousand+ in a month is nothing in comparison to the numbers they'll force on you if they push through their insane mass relocation plan.

[Erkki]

You should start with Germany first, lol. Thousand+ in a month is nothing in comparison to the numbers they'll force on you if they push through their insane mass relocation plan.

Thats besides the point, we can always(attempt to) return them (with sufficient political will). Thing is we're yet again being screwed by Russia and, publicly, few are bothered about it enough to demanding stricter border control. Finlandization ahoy, 1980s want you back. Some people we've have in the parliament since those times need to start dying or something right now.

Syrians seem to stop in Germany, its the rest of them(Iraqi and Afghani) continue to the Nordics, via Germany and Denmark.

[Sergarr]

But you know, if you try to put border controls with Russia to prevent migrants/refugees from coming in without first putting Germany on its place, they will just force you to remove those border controls, anyway, because it's pretty obvious that Germany/Merkel believes that Europe must hold as many refugees/migrants as possible.

[Erkki]

But you know, if you try to put border controls with Russia to prevent migrants/refugees from coming in without first putting Germany on its place, they will just force you to remove those border controls, anyway, because it's pretty obvious that Germany/Merkel believes that Europe must hold as many refugees/migrants as possible.

Those "refugees" arent new ones, they've all lived in Russia for years.

Comrade, Russians are sometimes a bit slow, so its a pure coincidence that they and their smugglers only now, since -91, realized they can just drive to our border for wealth and free healthcare.

edit: as in, nobody sane leaving Afghanistan or Syria right now wants to go to Russia first. 

[Sergarr]

But you know, if you try to put border controls with Russia to prevent migrants/refugees from coming in without first putting Germany on its place, they will just force you to remove those border controls, anyway, because it's pretty obvious that Germany/Merkel believes that Europe must hold as many refugees/migrants as possible.

Those "refugees" arent new ones, they've all lived in Russia for years.

Comrade, Russians are sometimes a bit slow, so its a pure coincidence that they and their smugglers only now, since -91, realized they can just drive to our border for wealth and free healthcare.

edit: as in, nobody sane leaving Afghanistan or Syria right now wants to go to Russia first. 

I thought Russia was used as transit country to enter Europe? I definitely read a story about someone doing just that. It was supposedly pretty thin though, not many people used it, because it required you to successfully apply to Russian university, first, to obtain the necessary visa.

P.S. Also, Russia has free healthcare, too, so why would people go to the cold wasteland that is Finland for that?

[Erkki]

Nope, by far the most volume is across the mediterranean. Over half of it via Turkey.

Until last November-ish, most asylum seekers from Russia have been ethnic Russians or Finno-Ugrian.

edit: also NATO countries Norway, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania have 0 people waiting at their borders. Its the FSB.

[Sergarr]

Its the FSB.

[grammar nazi intensifies]

[Erkki]

Its the FSB.

[grammar nazi intensifies]

Just wait till RT finds out about this: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/unprecedented-u-s-air-force-jet-deployment-to-finland-1758221233

[Sergarr]

Well I don't watch or read RT. Why would I care about what they do?

[Erkki]

Well I don't watch or read RT. Why would I care about what they do?

For the comedy value?

Although I was far from entertained today when I read Medvedev's speech in Munich. Somewhere during the last year the EU sanctions have changed from being a positive thing to Russia (cough cough) to something they want lifted so badly they're ready to bribe, blackmail and constantly threaten their neighbors with nukes.

[Sergarr]

Hey, if that results in freezing foreign assets of our "leadership", I'm all for it.