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[Orange Wizard]

Hollande said he doesn't want to extend the state of emergency after this attack.

[Cthulhu]

I didn't say it wasn't a terrorist incident.  I simply stated that, knowing only that a truck hit the crowd and killed a bunch of people, it was a perfectly reasonable question to ask at that point in time.  Not all mass-death incidents are terrorism; otherwise, we'd be talking about the terrorists behind the Tenerife airport disaster, nor are all people here blessed with precog, to have seen that picture you just posted almost two hours before you posted it.  There was no need to jump on Vilanat's throat over it.

Yes, it's not absolutely confirmed that it was a terrorist attack, or a Muslim terrorist attack, but we both know it was.

And Hollande referred to Islamic Terrorism in his address about the attack.  Looks like the thing we all knew was the case already turned out to be the case.

[hops]

Hoo boy, I'm going to be living in Germany. I hope the rest of Europe isn't as bad at containing the bomb cult.

[martinuzz]

Hollande said he doesn't want to extend the state of emergency after this attack.

Hollande has just announced that the state of emergency will be extended with another 3 months.

Death toll has risen to 84. Nice hospital calls upon to the people to come and donate blood.

Perpetrator has been identified as a 31 year old Tunesian French man who was known to the police for theft and assault charges. He wasn't on the radar for anti-terrorism agencies though, there had been no signs of that.

I wonder how many more of these attacks the French can take before they decide it's time to show IS that they are a nuclear superpower.

[Rolepgeek]

Probably a shitton, considering that nobody responded that way in practice to 9/11, and it would solve literally nothing.

[Orange Wizard]

Yeah, sending in armies to occupy the Levant would be better. Though a nuclear attack would send much more powerful message than conventional airstrikes.

[Kot]

Nuclear attack against what, though? If they explode an empty piece of desert they won't achieve much except irradiating stuff and causing pollution, if they explode an inhabited place then... well, they would explode an inhabited place with nuclear weapons.

[Orange Wizard]

Raqqa?

[hops]

Hey man, raqqa's a perfectly fine music genre.

[martinuzz]

Probably a shitton, considering that nobody responded that way in practice to 9/11, and it would solve literally nothing.

Then again 9/11 didn't happen 3-4 times a year.
I'm sure the current French government will never use the nuclear option.
Le Pen, on the other hand...
Don't want to think what could happen if a populist racist became president of one of the world's largest nuclear powers.

EDIT: 9/11 got the world closests to nukes as anything. I mean, nukes weren't used, but I remember watching CNN and other news channels reporting on the Gulf War, and the use of "Mother of all Bombs", whcih aren't nukes, but are designed to make people think they are. Big big boom and mushroom cloud. Using tactical nukes to penetrate bunkers has even been considered by the US coalition during the Gulf War.

[Sheb]

The point is that nuke wouldn't help at all.

[martinuzz]

Hollande announced that France will intensify it's attacks on IS in Syria and Iraq

[Orange Wizard]

I remember watching CNN and other news channels reporting on the Gulf War, and the use of "Mother of all Bombs", whcih aren't nukes, but are designed to make people think they are. Big big boom and mushroom cloud. Using tactical nukes to penetrate bunkers has even been considered by the US coalition during the Gulf War.

Oh, thermobarics? Those are minuscule compared to nuclear weapons. Scary, but not city-sized pressure wave scary.

The point is that nuke wouldn't help at all.

Not tactically, but it would ruin morale. Assuming you're okay with massive civilian casualties. In any case, someone needs to do something major or the war's just gonna drag on indefinitely.

[Kot]

Not tactically, but it would ruin morale. Assuming you're okay with massive civilian casualties. In any case, someone needs to do something major or the war's just gonna drag on indefinitely.

The problem is it would proably ruin the users morale than anyone's else.

[martinuzz]

Oh, thermobarics? Those are minuscule compared to nuclear weapons. Scary, but not city-sized pressure wave scary.

I thought they were dwarfed by real nukes too, but apparently the yield of the largest thermobaric weapon, the Russian FOAB, is larger than the yield of a yield-adjustable modern nuke at lowest yield setting, with a blast radius of 300 meters.

So while definitly not as powerful as nukes in general, 'miniscule', or 'dwarfed' might be a bit underrating them.