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No (flat 0.3E/T/u, break-even times 3T, 5T, 8T, 13T, 19T) (pro: Balances T4-based agents, contra: Takes forever to break even)

6 (33.3%)

Yes (1/3 creation cost/T, break-even times 3T, 3T, 3T, 3T, 3T) (pro: 3x break-even ratio preserved, contra: Low-tier races useless)

2 (11.1%)

Yes ((tier + 1)/3, break-even times 3T, 6T, 8T, 10T, 12T) (pro: Maximizes above two's strengths? contra: Maximizes above two's weaknesses?)

9 (50%)

Yes (other scale posted in thread)

1 (5.6%)

Yes (another scale posted in thread)

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 18

[crazyabe]

Yep, I know what I am making for my first race...

Spoiler: Gnomes (click to show/hide)

Gnomes are black furred Humanoids that live underground. they have Sharp digging claws on both hands and feet; they use these claws to dig and to Fight. They are known for their Will to know everything, Their Ability at Making other creatures junk work, And being massively overconfident in all situations. Gnomes lack eyes, instead being able to sense where something is through other means.

Tier 0
Burrowing (1) Talons (1) Novice Edge: Gadgeteer (2) Tunnel dweller (2) Blindsight (3) Major hindrance: Curious (-2) Major hindrance: Overconfident (-2) Major hindrance: blind (-2) minor hindrance: Stubborn (-1)

So, Consider the name Claimed!

[AbstractTraitorHero]

I'm thinking of making wisps.

[Happy Demon]

Heh, Dvergr, now that's an ironic name. Possibly in the same way Berserkr isn't really accurate.
Where Dvergir are just underground humans (same height).
While Berserkir are just people with bear shirts (sometimes just called Champions, as that's pretty much their role).
Anyway, getting off track.

I'm pretty sure everyone tries to make a spin on the generic races. Except Humans, because they're Humans.
And I kinda prefer humans to be standard, as they're what we're going to compare everything to anyway.

[Andres]

Sphere abilities. As in, the thing that KJP PMed you and said was your sphere ability.

Thanks for clearing that up.

2. You made up a lot of traits. Protection+1 doesn't exist, nor does Fruitful.

Making traits is allowed and Protection-X exists so Protection+X must also exist.

3. If the mechanics don't make you regret giving every race you make a vow to you, I certainly will  . It is a hindrance, not a benefit. You should remember that.

A hindrance to whom? That is the question. The races cannot expand and thrive if doing so goes against my will. That is certainly a hindrance, just for them, not for me. Of course, everything is in deference to KJP. It's why I posted the sheet on OOC first - to make sure everything's ok..

*High fives* Nicely done. Just in the nick of time too! That one Andres had plan didn't even have a proper skill or edge...

That was intentional. Like many tabletop RPGs (D&D, SW, etc.), Humans get a free trait/perk upon character creation. In this case, they receive their Edge/Skill either at birth or as they develop. If that's too much of a strain on KJP's bookkeeping, I'll simply go back and change it.

And now that I know Andres is planning The Most Stereotypical Dwarf/Elves ever, it is my duty to use them.

How tragic, I created the Most Sterotypical Dwarves/Elves Ever so the abominations creations you gave their names to couldn't be used. Now I've put too much effort in designing them to simply not use them. Truly we are damned by the universe to clash in this cosmic duel of fate. Hopefully I can find more unique names for Dwarves/Elves/Humans to differentiate between the current Humans and your Dwarves/Elves (if you actually end up making them).

I'm pretty sure everyone tries to make a spin on the generic races. Except Humans, because they're Humans.
And I kinda prefer humans to be standard, as they're what we're going to compare everything to anyway.

Exactly!

[Happy Demon]

Eh, let's put up another race in here.

Spoiler: Unnamed Creatures (click to show/hide)

Forge Demons
Tier 1 (3/3 Points)
[Attractive +2][Poison Immunity +1][Resist (Cold) -1][Resist (Heat) +1]

Hardy tailed humanoids, with black flesh, grey skin, grey sclera eyes, with glowing orange irises, and they have fireproof hair.
They also have thin spaded (devil) tails, and have small horns on their heads. Their strange features and behavior has a certain charm to them.
They get cold quickly, but that's not a hazard at the forge, where they're designed to work.
They're immune to poison, be it venom or bad air.

I'm kinda planning to use them immediately.

Edit: Also, this is kinda the laziest blacksmith race to ever be made. Even the dwarves are more imaginative than Demon Vulcan.

[Stirk]

Heh, Dvergr, now that's an ironic name. Possibly in the same way Berserkr isn't really accurate.
Where Dvergir are just underground humans (same height).
While Berserkir are just people with bear shirts (sometimes just called Champions, as that's pretty much their role).
Anyway, getting off track.

I'm pretty sure everyone tries to make a spin on the generic races. Except Humans, because they're Humans.
And I kinda prefer humans to be standard, as they're what we're going to compare everything to anyway.

Legends evolve all the time, its what they do. Andre's sheet really didn't put any new spin on it.

Making traits is allowed and Protection-X exists so Protection+X must also exist.

Not necessarily, and it wouldn't necessarily be priced in the same way if that was the case.

A hindrance to whom? That is the question. The races cannot expand and thrive if doing so goes against my will. That is certainly a hindrance, just for them, not for me. Of course, everything is in deference to KJP. It's why I posted the sheet on OOC first - to make sure everything's ok..

To you. The player. That is what hindrances are for. There is absolutely no reason there would be something that benefits you wile making it cheaper, and if there was it would be even more annoying that you are giving it to all your creations.

That was intentional. Like many tabletop RPGs (D&D, SW, etc.), Humans get a free trait/perk upon character creation. In this case, they receive their Edge/Skill either at birth or as they develop. If that's too much of a strain on KJP's bookkeeping, I'll simply go back and change it.

Wow. Your lazyness increased from "I'll just make humans as always!" to "Ill just make all my traits *Insert trait here*". That aside, you should probably put an actual trait  .

How tragic, I created the Most Sterotypical Dwarves/Elves Ever so the abominations creations you gave their names to couldn't be used. Now I've put too much effort in designing them to simply not use them. Truly we are damned by the universe to clash in this cosmic duel of fate. Hopefully I can find more unique names for Dwarves/Elves/Humans to differentiate between the current Humans and your Dwarves/Elves (if you actually end up making them).

Your effort bar is super low. For one of them you literally just put down the DF description and said "Oh, and they all get random traits/edges so I dun gotta do them.", the rest are hardly intellectually exhausting to come up with.

Oh well, I guess I will just have to murder all your creations again  .

[hector13]

Okay, new creature times:

Spoiler: Kikna (click to show/hide)

Tier-0: 2 points

Amphibious (2pts) Extremophile+2 (2pts?) Cautious (-1pts) Pacifist (-1pts)

Frog-like humanoids, known for predicting the weather. Prefers warm and wet environments, but is hardy enough to survive anywhere.

Not sure about the Extremophile +2 trait, basically just assumed ('cause we like those, right?) that if +1 was 1pt, +2 would be 2pts.

Happy to change it if there are issues!

[Rolepgeek]

The descriptions for traits hint at the mechanics of the traits. The exact appearance of the traits (within reason) is left up to the player. Interpolation/extrapolation for traits with + or - sizes is unsupported at this time.

Andres.

Emphasis mine.

It also says 'request'. Not 'make your own'.

[hector13]

I guess that means my things aren't gonna work as they are. Ah well.

Spoiler: Kikna - Revised (click to show/hide)

Tier-0: 2 points

Amphibious (2pts) Extremophile+1 (1pt) Immunity, Disease (1pt) Cautious (-1pts) Pacifist (-1pts)

2+1+1-1-1= 2 points

Frog-like humanoids, known for predicting the weather. Prefers warm and wet environments, but is hardy enough to survive anywhere.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

$Price check

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 
Name:Virs messengers cost:3 essence.
Tier 2
Traits
Immunity, Disease
 Immunity, Poison
 Keen (Sight)
<Flight>
Infravision
Resist (Pressure)-1
:Fluff:They are extremely small being barely bigger then a pebble and are basically a white orb and are made to be Virs messengers are immune to disease and poison due to their make up they are basically pure souls and given good sight to find what they need to find.

[hector13]

Tier-2 things cost 3E/unit. I also think you have 1 more point to spend on traits, as I'm not sure sentience or speech cost anything.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

There!

[Happy Demon]

I'm curious how Seija will react to Hevin setting up shop in her afterlife.

[hector13]

$Price check

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 
Name:Virs messengers cost:3 essence.
Tier 2
Traits
Immunity, Disease
 Immunity, Poison
 Keen (Sight)
<Flight>
Infravision
Fluff:They are extremely small being barely bigger then a pebble and are basically a white orb and are made to be Virs messengers are immune to disease and poison due to their make up they are basically pure souls and given good sight to find what they need to find.

Now I think you have one point too many

Flight costs 2pts, so you need to either add a hindrance or remove one of the other things.

[AbstractTraitorHero]

Gave it a weakness to pressure.