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Scare them into the deeper parts and cave in parts of the cavern, sealing them in

Take out their leaders and try to convince them to surrender

Slaughter them all

Ignore them and look elsewhere

Other (post and specify)

[apiks]

"Last time I checked, you're the ones that started surrounding us in battle formation first. Again Ritcher can confirm. I did warn them that I was dangerous. Besides, I didn't actually do magic in front of them, did I? Or is moving your hands enough to warrant that assumption?

My friend says leader, but in reality anybody who has enough authority to speak of your clan is good enough. No need to endanger your chief. Perfectly reasonable.

You ask how you can trust us. I think that the fact that we're not already fighting is a show of our desire for peace. We're still here and talking instead of leaving after the rumble.

Besides, will you claim you had no intentions of taking me prisoner? I do not for a moment doubt that if the odds were unquestionably in your favor that you would do that."

[Sirus]

((Except you totally did use magic. That's how they know you have it.

Good job on that, by the way.))

[apiks]

((I didn't, actually. I prepared a spell by moving my hands. The whispering was purely optional and I doubt anybody noticed, at best they noticed my mouth moved. This means they had no real indication of magic except my hands moving.

The spell was cast when Vorlak went out of hiding towards the first enemy.))

[highmax28]

"You're going to have to do better than that to show that we can trust you. Your words hold no meaning to us.

For all we care, we will have you chained up and used for bait."

[Sirus]

((Yeah, no. Once you start making gestures or vocalizations in order to cast a spell you are using magic. Perhaps you could have bluffed the gestures as being for good luck or greetings, but when they accused you of using magic you were completely open about it.

So yes. You were using magic and they know about it. Now we have to deal with it.))

"What could we do to perhaps earn your trust? I myself have little to offer save my music. Perhaps a performance to calm everyone's nerves?"

[apiks]

((Yes, I was using magic, however there is NO visual indicator except my gestures of it. As you said you can bluff your way to magic. Even if I couldn't do magic, I could've reasonably bluffed that I could.

My point is, they have absolutely no way of knowing whether I was bluffing with my gestures or not. We both know that I did in fact use magic, but they don't.

That's the logic behind my "anybody who waves their hands a bit is using magic".))

[highmax28]

((Yes, I was using magic, however there is NO visual indicator except my gestures of it. As you said you can bluff your way to magic. Even if I couldn't do magic, I could've reasonably bluffed that I could.

My point is, they have absolutely no way of knowing whether I was bluffing with my gestures or not. We both know that I did in fact use magic, but they don't.

That's the logic behind my "anybody who waves their hands a bit is using magic".))

((I swear I stated that since you were readying a spell, you did have some visual effect, like glowing hands or similar. Plus, if I recall, your forehead glows when you cast spells because you're a summoner. If you had used a still spell, I would say nothing happened. The point of still spell is to remove the somatic component, and that, visually, shows you're casting or are about to cast a spell.))

((Yeah, no. Once you start making gestures or vocalizations in order to cast a spell you are using magic. Perhaps you could have bluffed the gestures as being for good luck or greetings, but when they accused you of using magic you were completely open about it.

So yes. You were using magic and they know about it. Now we have to deal with it.))

"What could we do to perhaps earn your trust? I myself have little to offer save my music. Perhaps a performance to calm everyone's nerves?"

((The fact he admitted it didn't help his case either))

"We demand everything that they had on them and an equal amount in goods for each one you slew.

And we wish to see that THAT ONE is punished for slaughtering our kind.

And you will present this to us before sundown. We will exchange hostages to make sure you hold you to your word. Ritcher will accompany you and we will take one of you two. Both of our parties will agree that the other will not be harmed in the process. However, fail to present the goods on time, or if Ritcher is harmed, we will kill our hostage, and there WILL be war."

[Hanzoku]

((Yeah, no.))

[Sirus]

"...punished how?"

[apiks]

((I had absolutely no idea about the visual aspect. I do not recall it being mentioned either.

Also, I hope you don't mind some more intimidation, Sirus, though I have no idea if it will work.))

[highmax28]

"...punished how?"

"However your kind deals with murderers."

[TD1]

((So he wants us to kill Arioch. Interesting thought, haha.))

[Hanzoku]

((No, turn him over so they can kill him. Not particularly inclined to agree.))

[TD1]

((Oh, nor am I. It won't happen, but were it to somehow go ahead, Martijn would just jump out and start killing. It is his brother, after all.))

[highmax28]

((Or he wants him flogged or similar. You don't truly know what he thinks of what you guys do to criminals))