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Author Topic: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1935 Production  (Read 159582 times)

Andres

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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #615 on: July 28, 2015, 07:50:27 pm »

So, I say we use our design credit for a standard 1200kg truck for hauling everything we need to haul. It should have an armored cab able to stop up to a .30mg bullet as well as shrapnel, a 50hp engine, a transmission geared for pulling power, a MG mounted on the top of the cab(accessible from the load area and as well as a small hatch on the passenger side) and include in that an optional bed-mounted pedestal mount for an AC18-20 so that some trucks can provide fire overwatch for the convoy. Call it the AS-CT19

As for our other design, we definitely need another tank. We have all the tech needed for it, and it's just a matter of pulling it all together. I resubmit my Badger, officially the T-19 Light Tank "Badger"


Something I forgot to mention but we won't be able to afford the tank in 1920. Even if we get a new engine that pulls 1 more resource, we'll be on 2 Oil in 1920, at which point the tank becomes more Expensive. Without a new train engine to pull more resources, the trucks will also be Expensive.

Its so amazing because we developed it so fucking early and its (sorta) cheap. Now jsut... Shop.. Please. You are alienating yourself and your suggestions by ranting on and on about the fucking things.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #616 on: July 28, 2015, 07:54:11 pm »

Thank you.

On the front of fuel, the engine my armored car that posses enough weaponry to kill their tanks uses is the sort found in cars. Or trucks. And we want our truck to be able to haul a fair bit, dont we?
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #617 on: July 28, 2015, 07:54:20 pm »

Let's all be nice please! :)

I for one am in the 'revised smg might be a good idea' camp, some peeps are just more vocal!
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #618 on: July 28, 2015, 08:00:15 pm »

Now that we have autocannons, we could totally develop a biplane if we wanted to. My guess is it would require 3 Ore and 3 Oil. We have 3 Ore but we only have 2 Oil, soon having 1 Oil. This makes the biplane Expensive, but that's acceptable. The obvious complexity that would come with it would drive it up to Very Expensive, but that's still acceptable. What do you guys think?
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #619 on: July 28, 2015, 08:08:51 pm »

Deleted overly aggressive arguments...

I think I am not interested in this discussion...

My votes are
Generic, cheap, simple unarmed truck

Ask German guys to design our first byplane based on German WW1 designs but armed with our 20mm and adapted to our industry

« Last Edit: July 28, 2015, 08:43:37 pm by Ukrainian Ranger »
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #620 on: July 28, 2015, 08:11:31 pm »

Ask German guys to design our first byplane based on German WW1 designs
The Germans did have planes in WWI, didn't they? We might get a bonus if we get the defectors to design a plane. Heck, this might be the best year to do so.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #621 on: July 28, 2015, 08:14:38 pm »

They had.... many models

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_I_Central_Powers_aircraft


imagine what aircraft can do with their armor in desert using 20mmss for strafing runs.
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« Reply #622 on: July 28, 2015, 08:18:33 pm »

Heh, actually now that I think on it, a biplane armed with our 20mm autocannon would really be able to strafe any armor they have with near impunity, and blow out of the sky any opposing fighters they might throw at us. So I'll actually delay Badger AGAIN for a biplane based on German designs, using our 20mm autocannon mounted on the centerline using an interrupter gear.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #623 on: July 28, 2015, 08:21:25 pm »

If the guys inside our biplanes have some mortar rounds with them, they could conceivably do bombing runs on the enemy's supply lines. Heck, with they're autocannons they shouldn't have any problems with taking out the trains themselves. The trains aren't even armed or armoured! Even if they were armoured we'd just give the plane's machine gun AP rounds.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #624 on: July 28, 2015, 08:25:18 pm »

They had.... many models

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_I_Central_Powers_aircraft


imagine what aircraft can do with their armor in desert using 20mmss for strafing runs.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #625 on: July 28, 2015, 08:27:19 pm »

Alright, you guys have convinced me!

Design:General purpose truck for hauling anything that needs to be hauled; can optionally mount a bed-mounted AC18 and/or a cab mounted AS-1910. When used in areas that can expect combat, can mount some light cab armor enough to stop fragments and small arms.

Design:Have the German engineers design a biplane using an existing German design as the base, and mounting a centerline AC18 using a sycronization gear so it can fire through the propeller.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #626 on: July 28, 2015, 08:36:24 pm »

"Ahem, I may not know much about tanks, or weapons, and I still have a bit of a problem with the metric system, in fact, i have no idea why I was given this job in the first place. But if there is one thing I know very well, it is spycraft, I would like our current AI head to allow me to step into a co-head position, (I also need to know what our spies are named) then I would take over our counter Intel operations, I merely need an agent to assign to protecting our technology. I would also like to recommend a more, reliable side arm be passed through the system, perhaps we could call it the: SA-2 "Silent fox." pistol.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #627 on: July 28, 2015, 08:58:22 pm »

Seconding Tryrar
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #628 on: July 28, 2015, 09:13:57 pm »

Have the Germans design the AS-A18 based on existing German planes as a base.
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Re: Arms Race, Arstotzka: 1919 Design X2
« Reply #629 on: July 28, 2015, 09:17:50 pm »

Yeah, if we design them properly, we can have tanker trucks with the same design.

Edit: Basically what I'm thinking of is A duece and a half(but a bit lighter). That thing had a cargo bed that could be reconfigurable for just about anything, from hauling troops and supplies, to hauling gas, to even acting as a mobile AA with a .50 Quadmount. Our truck should be something similar.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2015, 09:21:22 pm by tryrar »
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