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[Urist Tilaturist]

Why would dwarves have gendered clothing if they barely have genders?

Humans and maybe elves are a different case altogether.

[Graknorke]

pls not this derail again

Let's just end it at acknowledging that the sexes in DF are nigh-on identical and not restart the shit.

[WJLIII3]

The only gender-thing that bothers me is when I see male dwarves wearing dresses or that kind of thing (loincloths, etc).

Which....which is the only gender that should wear loincloths?

[Arx]

I feel like it should be males, but I really don't know.



I also recently realised I almost entirely ignore gender when I play. Male, female - the only difference is that one will occasionally pick up a massive mood boost and need to be kept away from snatchers.

[Urist Tilaturist]

Which....which is the only gender that should wear loincloths?

Both, in some tribes, but in many places they are more associated with males.

As with dresses, this is purely cultural.

[Headless]

Before the discussion about gendered clothing (loin cloths are cloths worn about the loins so are suitible for either gender) someone said that babys never get killed in battle.  If there is no game play reason to keep the women dorfs out of battle then...  any other observations on that?   Any science on babys in battle ? 
How do nursing mothers compare against bro dudes or duche bros?

[Telgin]

Unless it changed recently babies definitely can be killed in battle in DF.

[WJLIII3]

Yeah, its not, like, super common, because the baby isn't actually involved in the combat, game-wise. But strikes that hit that arm have a chance of hitting the baby, and if the goblins were at liberty to choose their targets (that is, not occupied with an attacker) they might choose to attack it specifically, which would be brutal.

[Urist Tilaturist]

While I have never seen a baby killed in battle due to not using female dwarves in close combat squads, a wayward swipe can certainly pulp a baby, resulting in serious trouble if the mother is stressed and legendary.

[smeeprocket]

one problem with mothers in combat, for me at least, is that it leaves me with a bunch of babies just crawling around for a year (or dying in that time.) So even if the chance they die in battle is small, you can end up with uncontrollable orphaned children. I still don't bother sorting dwarves by sex for the military though, because, as I said, the concept of a battle moms is just awesome.

Also, the available clothes just allow for different options. All of my dwarves with wear dresses if it is native to their civ.

[pisskop]

I had a bunch of civilians drop their babies to punch a donkey skin and then when I told another group to flee with a burrow one threw her child onto the ground to escape with the other

  How are babies handled by the code, exactly?  They aren't carried by hand, I know that much.  They seem to float in a prone position in the same tile as the mother.

[Urist Tilaturist]

one problem with mothers in combat, for me at least, is that it leaves me with a bunch of babies just crawling around for a year (or dying in that time.) So even if the chance they die in battle is small, you can end up with uncontrollable orphaned children. I still don't bother sorting dwarves by sex for the military though, because, as I said, the concept of a battle moms is just awesome.

Also, the available clothes just allow for different options. All of my dwarves with wear dresses if it is native to their civ.

It is only an awesome idea if there is a proper place to leave the babies beforehand, and facility for dwarves to adopt the abandoned babies. Adoption would certainly be a good mechanic to add.

[smeeprocket]

one problem with mothers in combat, for me at least, is that it leaves me with a bunch of babies just crawling around for a year (or dying in that time.) So even if the chance they die in battle is small, you can end up with uncontrollable orphaned children. I still don't bother sorting dwarves by sex for the military though, because, as I said, the concept of a battle moms is just awesome.

Also, the available clothes just allow for different options. All of my dwarves with wear dresses if it is native to their civ.

It is only an awesome idea if there is a proper place to leave the babies beforehand, and facility for dwarves to adopt the abandoned babies. Adoption would certainly be a good mechanic to add.

putnam made a script for that. I think it doesn't work if the baby has a father though, and fathers won't pick up crawling babies as far as I know, a bunch of deadbeat dads.

[Urist Tilaturist]

Father dwarves notably lack breasts to suckle the babies. That is presumably the reason why mothers carry the babies, since babies are perfectly capable of walking around on their own.

[Adragis]

Can you geld dwarf men?
It might help with birth control, and babies appear to be a main issue here.