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Total Members Voted: 17

[smjjames]

I wouldn't be surprised if North Korea decided to take advantage of the distraction while a major portion of the US military is tied up in Europe, but it wouldn't be much more than a distraction.

Kazakistan maybe? Then again, not sure how easily Russia would be able to force them to take Russias side.

Belarus is pratically a sattelite of Russia.

[mainiac]

South Korea is more then capable of mopping the floor with Best Korea.  Although I suppose it's possible the Best Koreans might be too stupid to know that.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Especially if Japan will not stay neutral. But we move to the Armchair general territory here

[smjjames]

South Korea is more then capable of mopping the floor with Best Korea.  Although I suppose it's possible the Best Koreans might be too stupid to know that.

I did say that it would be little more than a distraction.

Especially if Japan will not stay neutral. But we move to the Armchair general territory here

I don't think China would care if Japan decided to get in on the Europe stuff.

[Knit tie]

I think we are grossly overestimating here how much the rest of the world cares about Ukraine.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

"I think we are grossly overestimating here how much France and Great Britain care about Poland." Some German in 1939

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http://ukrainerightnow.com/president-poroshenko-decree-regarding-occupied-territories-full-text/

That decree caused hysteria among DNR\LNR "governments"
Sure, without direct Ukrainian funding they will collapse before the spring.

[alway]

Wait, why would the Chinese care? They aren't idiots. They know this isn't anything more than posturing on both sides. It just means sanctions diverting trade into China.

Geopolitically, nobody really cares what happens to Ukraine. It isn't important to any of NATO (Russia invading its own former ally? Neat! Let's write some strongly worded letters and grab some popcorn! hell naw, we aren't getting anywhere near that mess; we're standing back and letting Russia shoot off their own feet), and even for Russia it's just a tactic to rabble rouse up popular support numbers for the seemingly inevitable economic hardships about to rock the nation to its core (though that backfired somewhat after the rebels mistook a passenger airliner for a military transport and got slapped with serious sanctions for it).

[Knit tie]

Wait, why would the Chinese care? They aren't idiots. They know this isn't anything more than posturing on both sides. It just means sanctions diverting trade into China.

Geopolitically, nobody really cares what happens to Ukraine. It isn't important to any of NATO (Russia invading its own former ally? Neat! Let's write some strongly worded letters and grab some popcorn! hell naw, we aren't getting anywhere near that mess; we're standing back and letting Russia shoot off their own feet), and even for Russia it's just a tactic to rabble rouse up popular support numbers for the seemingly inevitable economic hardships about to rock the nation to its core (though that backfired somewhat after the rebels mistook a passenger airliner for a military transport and got slapped with serious sanctions for it).

I, for one, am still unsure if the rebels or the Ukrainian army shot down that aircraft. The photo I posted earlier might not be so obviously fake after all.

[Sergarr]

What WW3? World vs Russia is not WW3, it is the world versus Russia war. What other sides for WW3 possible?

ISIS. They're crazy and competent enough that if they manage break a few governments in the area (and they're pretty close to that), they have a real possibility to turn into a major regional power with reasons to attack both West and East.

[Knit tie]

What WW3? World vs Russia is not WW3, it is the world versus Russia war. What other sides for WW3 possible?

ISIS. They're crazy and competent enough that if they manage break a few governments in the area (and they're pretty close to that), they have a real possibility to turn into a major regional power with reasons to attack both West and East.

Mr. Brecher would like to disagree with that.

[Sergarr]

What WW3? World vs Russia is not WW3, it is the world versus Russia war. What other sides for WW3 possible?

ISIS. They're crazy and competent enough that if they manage break a few governments in the area (and they're pretty close to that), they have a real possibility to turn into a major regional power with reasons to attack both West and East.

Mr. Brecher would like to disagree with that.

That article is so outdated it's not even funny.

"And that’s as far as it will go. ISIS has done well to take back its natural constituency, the Sunni center of Iraq. It will push against the Shia to the south, but they’ll fight much better on their own turf. And if it has any sense, it won’t even try to push against the Persh Merga. I used to see the Pesh Merga every day, and they ain’t nobody to mess with."

They fought Peshmerga and pretty much won against them. I haven't heard anything about Peshmerga's forces pushing back ISIS since August.

They're now fighting against PKK (Kurds in Syria) and are also winning.

Also they're pushing Assad's forced back.

That article was written in June. Many things have changed during these months.

[Knit tie]

What WW3? World vs Russia is not WW3, it is the world versus Russia war. What other sides for WW3 possible?

ISIS. They're crazy and competent enough that if they manage break a few governments in the area (and they're pretty close to that), they have a real possibility to turn into a major regional power with reasons to attack both West and East.

Mr. Brecher would like to disagree with that.

That article is so outdated it's not even funny.

"And that’s as far as it will go. ISIS has done well to take back its natural constituency, the Sunni center of Iraq. It will push against the Shia to the south, but they’ll fight much better on their own turf. And if it has any sense, it won’t even try to push against the Persh Merga. I used to see the Pesh Merga every day, and they ain’t nobody to mess with."

They fought Peshmerga and pretty much won against them. I haven't heard anything about Peshmerga's forces pushing back ISIS since August.

They're now fighting against PKK (Kurds in Syria) and are also winning.

Also they're pushing Assad's forced back.

That article was written in June. Many things have changed during these months.

Here's another article.

[mainiac]

Well when you decide you know everything because you can accurately predict the past you tend not to do so well with the future.  Amusing stuff, like Tom Clancy and GRR Martin's lovechild.

[smjjames]

Yeah, they've been pretty much bulldozing through. Peshmerga only stopped ISIS with some help from the US.

Hell, even the airstrikes that the US and the coalition is doing don't seem to be having much of an effect.

Edit: Does that more recent article even account for the huge cashflow that they've got? Of course though, that'll last until people figure out how to plug the holes.

[Knit tie]

In world news: G20 summit pretty much confirmed that Ukrainian crisis is now a conflict of Russia vs. the USA, both of which remain dead-set on winning. Any kind of resolution seems increasingly unlikely.