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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #2145 on: November 08, 2014, 02:20:03 pm »

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« Reply #2146 on: November 08, 2014, 02:21:48 pm »

Ah, fair enough. Meh, I was sort of looking at the general message, as highlighted at the end: If the religion makes you content and happy, that's fine. If it causes harm to others, or you try to shove it down somebody else's throat, it isn't. It's a message I approve of, even if the initial delivery was, as Helgo said, crude.
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« Reply #2147 on: November 08, 2014, 02:34:24 pm »

Edit: Actually, this one is better.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/religion
I liked the other one, but this one's rather... crude.

Just a bit
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #2148 on: November 08, 2014, 02:43:59 pm »

Ah, fair enough. Meh, I was sort of looking at the general message, as highlighted at the end: If the religion makes you content and happy, that's fine. If it causes harm to others, or you try to shove it down somebody else's throat, it isn't. It's a message I approve of, even if the initial delivery was, as Helgo said, crude.
Pretty much this. But it comes across as arrogance highlighted by a condscending tolerance.

The message itself pretty much sums up my approach to religion.
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #2149 on: November 08, 2014, 03:49:40 pm »

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« Reply #2150 on: November 08, 2014, 04:03:12 pm »

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/rapture

Hehe

Edit: Actually, this one is better.
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/religion

What a preachy jerk, that webcartoonist is.

Essentially why he's so popular with le reddit.
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« Reply #2151 on: November 08, 2014, 04:22:31 pm »

I guess it is rude.
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #2152 on: November 10, 2014, 06:31:06 am »

I hate the kind of arrogance that people have when discussing how their beliefs/preferences are oh so superior to everyone else's. This isn't just applicable to Oatmeal, actually - it's applicable to damn near everyone I've ever met.
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« Reply #2153 on: November 10, 2014, 06:41:07 am »

I hate the kind of arrogance that people have when discussing how their beliefs/preferences are oh so superior to everyone else's. This isn't just applicable to Oatmeal, actually - it's applicable to damn near everyone I've ever met.

Ah, those damn jerks with their arrogance. If only they'd understand how much better your beliefs and preferences are.
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« Reply #2154 on: November 10, 2014, 06:46:21 am »

I'd just like to take a moment to point out that his statement applies to your post as well. And this post, and it's entirely possible he's including himself.
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #2155 on: November 10, 2014, 07:19:48 am »

Ah, those damn jerks with their arrogance. If only they'd understand how much better your beliefs and preferences are.
What a wonderful strawman you have there.

I'd just like to take a moment to point out that his statement applies to your post as well. And this post, and it's entirely possible he's including himself.
Pretty much. I try to approach the subject with "this is what I think, and this is what you think, and that's okay." It's hard to do that, I'll admit, but I'll be damned (har de har) if I let myself forget that respectfulness is a fruit of the spirit.
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« Reply #2156 on: November 10, 2014, 12:33:55 pm »

I can't understand why a belief/religion can't be considered superior to others.

A religion has a few functions:
Instruct the conduct of human actions and reactions.
Describe the functioning of the world.

One believe it is ok to kill and eat his enemies as a sacrifice for the gods. another one believe that killing and eating even his enemies, as a sacrifices for the gods or not, will make them angry. morally speaking, i think its pretty clear which one is better.

One believe god created the world in seven days and mankind in one day, some 6 thousand years ago. Another one believe that the world was created some 3.5 billions years ago and humankind was chanced into existence because of a very simple natural mechanic which led to a very long and complicated chain of events from an initial archaea or the like and up to human kind as we know it. scientifically speaking, and that's the only way to look at both of these theories, unless the religious one wake up and modernize its creation myth as an allegory, its pretty clear which one is far more likely and based on evidence and hence, better.

The only questions which religions can't be compared with is which god is real or which method/way of life is preferred by god. while we can't answer those questions, only one religion is better in that regard.
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« Reply #2157 on: November 10, 2014, 12:55:20 pm »

It's not a question of whether one religion is better than another (I obviously believe that Christianity is categorically the best, and Rolan7 or Dwarfy or any of the number of others would disagree), it's a question of not being an arrogant jerk that goes around telling everyone around them they're going to hell/wallowing in their collective delusion.
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« Reply #2158 on: November 10, 2014, 01:26:37 pm »

But if you truly believe that christianity is the best, you are not being a jerk, you are being a life saver. an eternal life saver at that.

Would i be a jerk if i'd go tell people that eat and sacrifice other people that their religion is pathetically barbaric, outdated and immoral?
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« Reply #2159 on: November 10, 2014, 01:48:22 pm »

Yes. That's a pretty tactless approach that will predispose them to mistrust you and oppose any of your ideas out of spite, which is why I don't tell atheists that I think they have remarkably poor taste in life choices. You'd be better off trying to show them good reasons why their religion is flawed, in a less aggressive manner.
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