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[Skyrunner]

I always go look at a project, realize that it's huge and uses practices that I'm not familiar with, and that I can't really do anything, then get disheartened

[Orange Wizard]

I haven't noticed too many weird glitchy issues myself, possibly because my browser seems to auto-refresh the page when I do things. Still, I can see that having all your tasks magically reorder themselves or your house somehow un-clean itself would be really annoying. Sadly I lack the programming skills to do anything about it.

I always go look at a project, realize that it's huge and uses practices that I'm not familiar with, and that I can't really do anything, then get disheartened

This happens to me, too.

[sjm9876]

Dwarf Therapist looks fine to me. I'll probably jump in and out of the challenge as required.

[Sappho]

I haven't noticed too many weird glitchy issues myself, possibly because my browser seems to auto-refresh the page when I do things. Still, I can see that having all your tasks magically reorder themselves or your house somehow un-clean itself would be really annoying. Sadly I lack the programming skills to do anything about it.

It's not so much about glitches (though they do happen, as in Vector's case). It's more that the site acts strange and refuses to do useful things that you'd imagine would be quite simple to do. It does appear to auto-refresh, but those refreshes don't apply to the whole site (and I'm not even sure they actually sync you with the server at all). I've never had anything un-check itself or anything so terrible as that, but there have been times when I've visited the tavern many times over the course of a day, after asking a question, and it appears that no one is there. Hit F5, and suddenly there's a thousand messages there that hadn't shown up. That sort of thing. And it *is* possible to lose progress if you get unlucky.

The thing that irks me is they're still insisting that it would be a server-crashing issue if they made it possible to list all the members of a guild. True, the largest guilds have thousands of members. But I still don't see how that's a problem. Their explanation is that each user has a unique ID number, and the server would have to look up these strings of numbers for each user to retrieve their username, and then display that name on the site, and this would bring the whole server down in a fiery explosion.

They're NUMBERS. We're not trying to stream HD video here. We're not even looking at images. Just strings of text, that's all I'm asking for. I cannot conceive of how shitty their server must be, or how inept they must be at coding, if they honestly can't handle that. Please, if anyone here knows enough about making web sites and using php and all that, who is able to understand what's actually going on, who can either explain why this really is too much to ask (or else back me up on their claim being absurd), I'm totally bewildered by this situation.

[Skyrunner]

They're actually using Javascript for their server, with node.js to serve as the logic and built using grunt, with internationalization provided by jade? I think?

I honestly don't think the site would be unable to handle lists--the database they use, MongoDB, reputes itself for being able to handle 20000 API requests per second. I would try to help, but it seems I don't konw how to open source projects

[Antur]

Yeah looking at github it's MongoDB+Node with Jade templating i think (never used).
I can understand they don't want weird queries from default view but surely adding some button for getting the list once in a while would not kill the db.

[Sappho]

Thanks for the info, guys. Maybe I'll try and ask one of the higher-ups about putting a button in. The current situation is just silly.

But since, for the moment, I can't see a list of players in our guild, could everyone here make a post giving their Habit name? I know many of you did already, but rather than combing through the thread and tracking down those who didn't, I'd like to just make a quick list. I'll put it in the first post.

[Arx]

I'm Arx.

So far, this is proving pretty helpful!

[Cheeetar]

I'm Cheeetar. This is going pretty swell. Eating more regularly, cleaned up a few things that really needed cleaning up.

[Baneling]

Name is Baneling.

Have yet to see how much this helps me, as I only just started it. *shrug*

Time will tell, I suppose.

[sjm9876]

sjm9876

Moving slowly due to very general tasks.

[Worldmaster27]

I am Worldmaster.

I do think that this helps a lot, I've gotten more [irl stuff] done in the last week than I have during the whole summer.

[Vector]

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[Il Palazzo]

Il Palazzo.

[Sappho]

I'm vectorspace!

I do think the site is extremely useful, don't get me wrong, and I'm going to keep using it... I'm just having a lot of trouble with the organization, LOL. I'd also been wanting to try coding on some sort of open source project sometime, so maybe I'll see if there's any small tasks I could help with.

If you want to make a button that displays the names of all the members of a guild, you'll be my new favorite person. ; )

The Dwarf Therapist challenge is up now. I'll try to get to the Exercise one today as well. It'll depend on how much else I manage to get done. It's SO DAMN HOT it's tough to focus...

EDIT: GAH okay apparently it is NOT possible to delete or edit tasks you get from a challenge. So maybe hold off on joining the Dwarf Therapist one until I can figure out how to do it right...