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Author Topic: Therian Saga [Sandbox Browser MMO]  (Read 181331 times)

frostshotgg

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Re: Therian Saga [Sandbox Browser MMO]
« Reply #1215 on: June 20, 2014, 10:20:14 am »

I think the dungeon drops are more there to let you progress while doing stuff you'd do anyways, or to save relatively large sums of money in exchange for an inferior product. Ex 1. I was going to be farming cabin anyways for some quick gold so I can afford those last few expansions to build an inn. Ex 2. I'm willing to take a rustic steel mail legs drop from Rahesgamok instead of spending 30g to get exceptional and save some time. Those kind of situations are what the npc drops are for.
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« Reply #1216 on: June 20, 2014, 12:05:45 pm »

does this have a pay to win component where you spend money to get perks and such? most of these do.
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« Reply #1217 on: June 20, 2014, 02:10:57 pm »

Not in the same way in which you are asking.  #1, there's no current way to win.  And #2, there are some perks that you can spend RL $$ on, but you can also use ingame currency to buy Crowns to buy all but 1 of those perks.  That 1 perk only requires that you spend any amt of RL $$ toward the game to earn it, and it's non-essential, though very helpful.

Quite a few of our most skilled players haven't spent a dime toward the game.
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« Reply #1218 on: June 20, 2014, 02:23:29 pm »

does this have a pay to win component where you spend money to get perks and such? most of these do.
Honestly its more like pay for convenience. There is no rules for alt accounts, instead there is the benefit of having multiple characters on a single account since slot unlocks apply to all characters on an account. You could argue about being able to pay for the various consumables, however those are on a 3 per day cool down, which again is more of convenience of being able to finish a task now instead of in a hour or two.
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« Reply #1219 on: June 20, 2014, 06:17:04 pm »

To clarify, there IS a paid currency, and there IS stuff you can't get otherwise with it. However, usage of this stuff is limited to a few times per day, and you can purchase the paid currency in the ingame market.
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« Reply #1220 on: June 20, 2014, 06:26:50 pm »

While I agree that the freemium in this game is about as unoffensive as possible, and not spending any money on the game in no way hinders your ability to play it, there is one aspect that could rub some people the wrong way: Spending cash on BC (the premium currency), then selling those BC in-game for gold. Players with lots of money to waste can quickly make themselves rich in-game, and someone with enough marketing know-how could potentially use that purchasing power to mess with the economy. But on the whole, this really isn't a competitive game, and as malicious as such an action might be, it'd be more irritating than harmful in the long run.

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« Reply #1221 on: June 20, 2014, 06:36:38 pm »

While that's certainly possible, someone just harvesting a ton of something and then dropping the price massively, ie. selling lots of blueroc ingots for 2g could screw with the economy just as well.
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« Reply #1222 on: June 20, 2014, 06:58:30 pm »

That's a problem with the game not having a market for bids, only asks; as frustrating as it is, the market will correct itself eventually; and I'm dealing with it at this very moment, albeit at a smaller magnitude. The problem with buying BC is that it gives someone free (with respect to the game economy) purchasing power, which if used appropriately can create artificial surges in demand.

To those who are thinking about starting this game, do yourself a favor and familiarize yourself with the game guide and Shinhan's page; The community in global chat has a way of being absolutely toxic towards people who ask questions. Alternatively, ask your questions here or in _Urist_.

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« Reply #1223 on: June 20, 2014, 08:41:47 pm »

Correction: Toxic when you ask questions that are in the game guide or FAQ, or should be common sense. People will answer where you can cut yew or solone fine, it's when you spam "How do I raise leadership" that we get vicious. Because seriously. If I had a dollar for every time someone asked that or some variation, I could buy Virtys and make asking that in chat auto-ban.
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« Reply #1224 on: June 21, 2014, 02:19:08 am »

And therein lies the problem: y'all take the questions too generally and provide advice that doesn't suit their learning style. When someone doesn't understand the subject matter well enough to formulate a specific and appropriate question, the goal is to determine what they are trying to accomplish and point out the steps they need to take to accomplish it. When someone asks "How do I raise leadership?", they probably understand the basic premise of gaining skills, evidenced by the fact they're not asking about crafting skills which generally come earlier for everyone, thus they are more likely hung up on the peculiarities leadership has with respect to the other skills, but don't understand their lack of understanding well enough to compose a more informative question; that said, the basic premise of gaining skills is not actually in the game guide, nor is it explicitly covered in the tutorial.

Anyhow, telling people to rtfm doesn't help those who can't easily learn through observation and passive guidance, and gaining familiarity with any documentation tends to be coupled with the loss of understanding what said documentation looks like to someone without such familiarity.

Granted, pointing people to documentation is better than nothing, but being visually bitter about it only causes negative reinforcement for both the player trying to learn the game and the player trying to be helpful.

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« Reply #1225 on: June 21, 2014, 08:40:20 pm »

Regarding NPC stores: I successfully camped two of them in Hawkoria city for about seven hours today. From what I could tell, they're both on 60 minute timers, give-or-take a few seconds, and the hiccups the server's been having recently delay those timers. Each store (not NPC) has its own timer, and the amount restocked is random; in one instance, one thing in the store failed to restock.

So, camping an NPC is mostly just a matter of figuring out when they restock (the tedious part), coming back every hour (the potentially logistically difficult part), and not having any competition (the mostly luck-based part). Also, having the money to buy in bulk.

If you have no luck with the NPCs, I suppose I could give/sell my NPC bought stuff so it gets put to use sooner, though my stock of tannins is low and I use it myself. This offer is for all B12ers.

hmm.. actually I figure that I can level up my tanning by crafting superior soft leather stuff... so I guess I will use them to level me up and NPC the item >_> since they are so bad hahaha xD just trying to get skill level up now...

By the way, do we have chatroom in the game?
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« Reply #1226 on: June 23, 2014, 02:04:01 am »

By the way, do we have chatroom in the game?
_Urist_ (with the underscores), not that anyone uses it anymore, but I still have it up.

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« Reply #1227 on: June 23, 2014, 08:13:52 am »

By the way, do we have chatroom in the game?
_Urist_ (with the underscores), not that anyone uses it anymore, but I still have it up.
Most people just use the Steam group. Search for Bay 12 Therian Saga.

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« Reply #1228 on: June 23, 2014, 09:25:02 am »

If I don't reply in the Steam group (And I might be the only 1 in there right now), it's because I'm at work.  Feel free to hang out.  I'll be back later.
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« Reply #1229 on: June 23, 2014, 12:09:54 pm »

In other news, who's a mason who's still active?  I'm getting progressively closer to my lanfarite goal for a new quarry...
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