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[10ebbor10]

Well, the glass boxes aren't problematic. It's not like Yes and No votes have to go in separate boxes, so the material really doesn't matter.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I am wondering what the numbers will be. Will they try to remain in the realm of plausibility?

[XXSockXX]

Well, the glass boxes aren't problematic. It's not like Yes and No votes have to go in separate boxes, so the material really doesn't matter.

I wasn't sure on the separate boxes, so yeah, that might not be a problem. Still it's not really a secret vote I think, at least not something I've seen before.

I am wondering what the numbers will be. Will they try to remain in the realm of plausibility?

Well, they said they expect over 80% for Russia, so I wouldn't be too surprised if they got 80%. Something between 60% and 70% would be plausible I guess, considering ethnicities and pressure.

[10ebbor10]

Anyway, the referendum is far from neutral. I mean, choosing for the status-quo isn't even an option. You either vote for Russian annexation, or for Crimean quasi independence.

[XXSockXX]

It's a farce anyway and pretty much everybody knows it. Apparently some European far-righters did follow Putin's invitation to observe the vote. If you scroll down here, there are some funny tweets about a Flemish observer who doesn't seem to take his job very seriously.
I've read that Belarus, Kasachstan and Kirgistan are more or less distancing themselves from the Russian course of action here, which goes to show how much diplomatic influence this costs Putin.

[Comrade P.]

I'm sorry guys, I haven't kept track of last 50 pages, and maybe this video from ZDF (Die Anstalt show) was already posted. If not, there it went.

[10ebbor10]

The translation is rather suboptimal, so it's sometimes interesting to understand what's going on. Also, political satire.

[Guardian G.I.]

I actually like the DDR anthem a lot.

The anthem of Oceania from the film adaptation of Orwell's "1984" seems to be inspired by it. Just compare it to the GDR anthem, especially the instrumental version of it.

I'm sorry guys, I haven't kept track of last 50 pages, and maybe this video from ZDF (Die Anstalt show) was already posted. If not, there it went.

The translation is rather bad. Judging by what I have understood, I want to say one thing.

[liberalmode]These people can't understand a damn thing. As we all know, and as the most truthful and democratic Western media say, the free people of Ukraine have peacefully overthrown the totalitarian dictator installed and backed by Russia, and they did that all by themselves, without any foreign support; there were no radical nationalists and neo-Nazis among them, everyone who says otherwise repeat Putin's propaganda.

Today, these satirists condemn the peaceful Ukrainian democratic revolution, and it's very likely that Russia paid them to do that. Tomorrow, they will praise Putin (who is basically the reincarnation of Hitler, or maybe even worse, the reincarnation of Stalin) invading the EU. The day after tomorrow, they will praise the return of Stasi![/liberalmode]

[scrdest]

Guardian, stop hoarding all the straw, you're raising the prices for the rest of us.

[Comrade P.]

I'm sorry guys, I haven't kept track of last 50 pages, and maybe this video from ZDF (Die Anstalt show) was already posted. If not, there it went.

The translation is rather bad. Judging by what I have understood, I want to say one thing.

[liberalmode]These people can't understand a damn thing. As we all know, and as the most truthful and democratic Western media say, the free people of Ukraine have peacefully overthrown the totalitarian dictator installed and backed by Russia, and they did that all by themselves, without any foreign support; there were no radical nationalists and neo-Nazis among them, everyone who says otherwise repeat Putin's propaganda.

Today, these satirists condemn the peaceful Ukrainian democratic revolution, and it's very likely that Russia paid them to do that. Tomorrow, they will praise Putin (who is basically the reincarnation of Hitler, or maybe even worse, the reincarnation of Stalin) invading the EU. The day after tomorrow, they will praise the return of Stasi![/liberalmode]

Well, I actually found this video with russian subtitles first, and then looked for a decent analog with english ones. I cannot judge about translation (I mean how much it is relevant to the point of speaker) due to the fact I do not speak German.
Also, I liked that liberal opinion...

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...in case it was all sarcasm

[scriver]

I really do hope that was sarcasm. Because otherwise, it just shows just how little you know about what "western media" is saying.

[Helgoland]

Guardian, stop hoarding all the straw, you're raising the prices for the rest of us.

Dirty capistalist, you!

[miljan]

Did OSCE changed its mind and is monitoring the referendum?

[Willfor]

Guardian, stop hoarding all the straw, you're raising the prices for the rest of us.

Dirty capistalist, you!

That's racist!

There we go, now I have some straw for a bed

That's ... not actually a straw man. That's a simple accusation. You're not painting a picture of his arguments as the most easy to defeat. You're just calling him racist for no appreciable reason . . .

[Willfor]

Guardian, stop hoarding all the straw, you're raising the prices for the rest of us.

Dirty capistalist, you!

That's racist!

There we go, now I have some straw for a bed

That's ... not actually a straw man. That's a simple accusation. You're not painting a picture of his arguments as the most easy to defeat. You're just calling him racist for no appreciable reason . . .

Great.

I can accidentally construct strawmen, but have no clue how to do so purposefully.

I can construct them purposefully! But I find myself constructing them accidentally far more often.