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[Persus13]

All seems reasonable enough: how does this differ from the original ruleset/what was the rationale for the changes?

Original setup below. Basically I added a few more power roles to town and scum, made it slightly more balanced towards town, and modified the third party win conditions so that hopefully the three of them won't team up with the Confederates to kill the last Union player again.

This game is a normal Mafia game with the exception of three players are third party players with no interest in the main portion of the game.

This game has 13 players, of which 7 are Union soldiers, 3 are Confederate Saboteurs, and 3 are third parties.

Union Players are Town and win when all Confederates are dead. The lynch vote is the town's main weapon against third parties. The town get one power role in the form of the Union General, who can inspect a player at night to determine whether they are Union or Confederate.

Confederate Players are Mafia/Scum and win when all the Union players are dead. The Confederates have access to a quicktopic and have a Night Kill. The Confederates also have one player with an inspect ability, the Confederate General.

The Third Parties:
The Good: This player wins by keeping himself and the Ugly alive until the end of the game or until the Bad dies. The Good knows who the Ugly is and has a one-shot Nightkill. The Good comes up as Confederate to inspects
The Bad: The Bad wins by keeping himself alive until the game ends or the Good and the Ugly are dead. The Bad has a Nightkill. The Bad is essentially an SK with an additional goal. The Bad comes up as Union to inspects.
The Ugly: The Ugly wins by keeping himself and the Good alive until either the Bad dies or the game ends. The Ugly knows the identity of the Good. If the Confederates attempt to kill the Ugly, the kill will backfire and kill the one performing the kill. The Ugly also will survive the first time he is lynched, but his identity will be revealed. The Ugly comes up as Confederate to inspects.

When a third party wins or loses, and are still alive, they remain in the game, but with the Union win condition.

[notquitethere]

But that was a beautiful ending.

Also, if your aim was to stop that, I'm not sure how the changes achieve what you think they achieve: GBU can still team up at the start of D4 with scum to steamroller the unionists.

[Persus13]

But that was a beautiful ending.

Also, if your aim was to stop that, I'm not sure how the changes achieve what you think they achieve: GBU can still team up at the start of D4 with scum to steamroller the unionists.

Except by D4 there will be 2 or 3 players left in the game using the 12 player set up assuming all kills/lynches go through.

[notquitethere]

But that was a beautiful ending.

Also, if your aim was to stop that, I'm not sure how the changes achieve what you think they achieve: GBU can still team up at the start of D4 with scum to steamroller the unionists.

Except by D4 there will be 2 or 3 players left in the game using the 12 player set up assuming all kills/lynches go through.

Ah, that makes some amount of sense then. Also, I was going to say "what's to stop GBU + scum teaming up D2 when they're even in numbers with town?", but with all of town's power-jam, that sort of early team-up seems untenable.

[Cheeetar]

Does the ugly being lynched remove his night-kill 1 time protect? What's to stop the Good and the Ugly conspiring to get the Ugly lynched Day 1?

Edit: Oh, if the confederates try to kill him. My bad.

[4maskwolf]

Bbbbbbbut that was a beautiful ending. I loved that ending

I'm totes not just biased because I was confederate general that game.

[Persus13]

Thanks for the feedback. I'm putting this game into signups and if you have any more questions or issues with the set up, let me know.

[notquitethere]

Been reading back through old games and we need more games with posting restrictions like this.

[Persus13]

Been reading back through old games and we need more games with posting restrictions like this.

FUCK THIS.  FUCK EVERYONE.  I AM A WAFFLE.

What the hell was going on? Was swearing and quitting a post restriction?

[Jack A T]

Archangel Mode.  We were supposed to imitate some guy who apparently had a habit of swearing and quitting.

As for post restrictions like that, I'm still working on Bad Reality Show Mafia (though progress isn't likely to be made until after essay season ends).

[notquitethere]

Mafia does that to people:

FUCK.

I think I need to quit mafia for a while, because god damn, you'd think somebody would have a hard time making so many stupid fucking mistakes in a row.

FUCK.

Fuck that noise, I quit

So, as some of you know, I'm leaving the forum.  As far as I know, for good.

[Shakerag]

Been reading back through old games and we need more games with posting restrictions like this.

Wow.  Reminds me of the dialogue from House of the Dead: Overkill. 

By which, I mean that it's hilarious.

[webadict]

Webadict, you still willing to take a look at game ideas?

I'll look at them, but it'll probably be like months from the point you want an answer.

[Jack A T]

Oh, hey, Webadict.  Who won KYOSN?

[4maskwolf]

Webadict, you still willing to take a look at game ideas?

I'll look at them, but it'll probably be like months from the point you want an answer.

* 4maskwolf begins rolling on the floor laughing

Hehehe oh man I didn't even remember asking that.