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Re: Toon Mafia VII - But I Don't Want To Re:Love! [Day 3]
« Reply #1140 on: June 29, 2013, 10:27:57 am »

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Unvote. I have reasons to believe NQT is telling the truth here. Why? My wincon is the same. The difference with my role is that I cannot leave my home, but can make others come to me (as long as they are leaving their house in the first place). I can confirm that Tiruin did not leave her house in night 2, as my action had no effect. Night 1 I was interrupted as my home was invaded.
This to me seems like the best time to claim as scum. "If two people have the ability, why not me?" mentality. You also added the fact that your personal ability had no effect so there was no way to prove you wrong in any way.So your claim seems scumiests to me.
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As for the Ranger lynch, he seemed far too scummy to be what he truly claimed.
Also, the fact that you didn't believe that someone had this ability... I'm skeptical. If you were worried about revealing your role by defending him you didn't have to. At the same time you didn't have to vote him. Someone claiming the basically the same ability as you is too lucky of a guess on their part. I feel like you are BSing here. If you are not scum I am guessing you are lying about what your role actually is.
I did not defend, and indeed attack Ranger, because he was scummy. He acted in a way not compatible with his claim. But what I find most idiotic in your post is that you conveniently ignore that both Leafsnail and NQT claimed the same wincon as mine and that their actions also cannot be easily confirmed. When referring to NQT you said he claims and at the same time not jumps in to the claim wagon? How does that make sense? He started the claim wagon, not that there is anything scummy about claiming.

Not only that but you instantly believe Tiruin's claim despite no evidence other than my own action claim, which you do NOT believe, that she performed no kill last night. You are trying to gain more nights to kill, Shinigami, and I have no problem in seeing pond scum like you hang.
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Re: Toon Mafia VII - But I Don't Want To Re:Love! [Day 3]
« Reply #1141 on: June 29, 2013, 11:19:14 am »

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Not only that but you instantly believe Tiruin's claim despite no evidence other than my own action claim, which you do NOT believe, that she performed no kill last night. You are trying to gain more nights to kill, Shinigami, and I have no problem in seeing pond scum like you hang.
Could you expound the bolded part? You just said you acted on me, and now delve into specifics?

..And you say he doesn't believe what you're saying..where?
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« Reply #1142 on: June 29, 2013, 11:57:54 am »

I’ll address this first shall I? Some small minute things first.
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So how about you claim your house so that someone will be able to visit? :-/ Also, is your wincon game-ending? Do you leave the game?

When I first saw this I thought it was just a towny being suspicious but scum would have a huge reason to learn what house he lives in and if his ability is game ending. I think it was obvious that you didn’t plan on helping him at all in the first place so how would knowing any of this information help you. To me it looks like you are going for an easy lynch or you are just trying to siphon away some information to help yourself and your scumbuddies.
If you haven't noticed, Town also has a huge incentive to know if his wincon is game ending.  If it was, town would lose too.  Knowing his house would theoretically help a mafia member by eliminating a house off of the potential townie house list, but it would also help a townie member to find out who's house is mafia's, and who's house isn't.
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Solifuge, are you planning to do anything that isn't contentless shitpictureposts today? Your 'main' post yesterday (#748) was basically defending Lenglon, stealing other people's reasons for voting Nerjin (those reason being stealing other people's reasons for votes) and FOSMGUSing me for... lurking? Seriously? That's the best case you've got after an entire day? (well, not counting your 'case' on Nerjin)
What I want to point out here is not really your posturing towards Solifuge but the way you’re FOSing nerjin. “scum but less so”. first, you are scum or you are not. You can’t technically be “less so”. I feel like there is an almost general consensus that Nerjin is likely scum compared to silifuge who while has been playing poorly for sure, has not been giving off major scumtells. This portion of your post looks more like you trying to say “nerjin is scum, but I’m not going to really pay any attention to him because he is my scum buddy”. You FOS and then forget. Seems legit.
Point obviously completely reliant on both Nerjin and Dariush being scum.


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A lot of fluff so I’ll skip to this part.
Really?  A lot of fluff?  You are picking and choosing choice examples of Dariush's posts, while claiming to go through every single one.
He explains a HUGE logical fallacy in RangerCado's thinking, something that you conveniently forget. 
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Even though my read on you fell through the floor, I'm still going to give you one last chance to redeem yourself. Claim your house.

Did you seriously threaten him to just tell you his house number? That thing that you can use to kill him. Well, ranger’s reasons for not saying his house number are dumb due to the fact that we already agreed that scum wouldn’t target him but there are other reasons that I have already stated in posts before this one as to why he wouldn’t want to claim his house.
your reasons for "why he wouldn't want to claim his house"  would be more valid if RangerCado ever agreed with them, or commented on them in any positive form whatsoever.  He didn't.  Therefore we can conclude that your guess of why he did what he did is wrong.
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Here you are trying to pull the information out of him, and later as we will see soon, you attack him for claiming due to being hesitant. No matter what he would be guilty. Way to use that good old catch 22 on him there. No matter what, he is one screwed mafia player. 
It's my personal opinion that the fact that RangerCado yielded under pressure while not really changing his opinion is what really made him scummy.
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Isn't that a bit too early to make assumptions?
Lazy ass is being lazy. You are avoiding the area of trying to make “assumptions” because he is your scumbudy and you don’t want to put him in everyone’s line of focus.  You’re also not posting anything here with significant content.

Of course it's a bit to early to make assumptions.  HE HASN'T POSTED YET!  He also answered your questions.  What more content do you want?
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Ah, I think Nerjin-san is a big stupid head. Why would he leave us? was he a stupid bully? And i think they are all good people! Except Tiruin-san. Hes a bit on the mean side, De Arimasu! (amidoingitright
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NQT-San is obvously a bully! De Arimasu!
Wow, you're stupid.

Why did we even let him into this game?...
“Ahaha, good old Dariush, just being mean to everybody :P He is just acting natural and is a grump, now time for me to go pay attention to someone who isn't Dar~” Trying to look natural when attacking someone wile presenting no content… seeing as this is the replacement of your scumbuddy of course you would avoid starting a real case on them.
Do you need a thorough examination of IG's three posts to understand why he was playing bad?  I'd assume that was obvious.  But again, your whole point is completely reliant on Nwejin AND Dariush being scum.
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Well that escalated quickly. His response was dumb, no question about it, but you just go right in and say that he is scum. PLEASE! what I see is you saying, "hey! Cado looks weak, suspicious and dumb! Time to go pick on him and start an easy bandwagon because no one will ever notice! and when his role flip come and it's seen that he was actually telling the truth, who cares!? He wasn't a good player anyway! Pshaw~" that summarizes my point for this post. Next!
Do you disagree with anything specific in this post of his, or are you going to stick with interpreting the meaning posts without actually disagreeing with the content?  You accuse him of calling Cado scum.  How does this make him scummy?  Note that his is the only complaint that you actually have about the CONTENT of this post. 
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He said in an irritated manner with nothing actually backing up what he is saying. Because you are scum, I'm sure you realize that at first it would be easy enough for you and your scumbuddies to say "show us" and Ranger would have to claim if he kept his promise. Instead he raised it so this would be less likely to happen.
WTF?  If I understand this correctly, you're main complaint about this post of his is that he was irritated and he didn't quote the posts that prove him right.  Then you give a rambling explanation of why Cado would raise the bar is if it makes Dariush scum for not automatically assuming that's what happened.  Of course, your logic is flawed.  If Cado's reasoning for raising the bar was that, he would of said so.  He also wouldn't of changed his mind under pressure.
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I feel like I have already gone over this so I think I'm just going say this. You are simply attacking him... not making a case, not even thinking through your entire posts. There are two sides to each coin and between the two sides, heads and tails, your arguments lean heavily to the rear end if you can gather what I'm throwing down here. B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T. I think by using words like this you may be able to understand a little, eh, Daruish?
Did you disagree with the bolded part?  I don't care about a stupid coin.  I don't even care if he's just being a jerk.  I care about whether his statement is right or not.
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I found you, and still find you, scummy. This question was not purely random, it was using the current circumstances presented to me to try to see if you were hiding something, and to see if you would reveal any poor cover up strategies with your scumbuddy. Gathering everyone's oppinions of ford's and ranger's roles was important because if people start contradicting themselves something may be up. Currently I see that you are leading a bit of a bandwaggon against ranger.
Is bandwagoning a valid scumtell?
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Imperial Guardsman - Nerjin has left a bad taste in my mouth. How do you taste? What are your views of Nerjin. Specifically, I'm curious as to what you think of vote mania but I'm curious about your general reads. What do you think of PotL, Tiruin and Solifuge.
This question's purpose was to try to use the replacing player to "triangulate" whether Nerjin was scum or not. IG didn't play... as expected, so the question was null and void.
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Everyone- Not asking for WIFOM, just some insight from the public, does anyone here have an opinion that they would like to share about the night. (Nk's, questionable actions etc.)
I think it is important to hear everyone's oppinions of what happened and how we should approach the day.
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Birdy- Could you list the major problems with nerjin's and IG's play and try to justify why they played the way they did.
This is once again me attempting to "triangulate" their alignment. I do believe nerjin & accomplices are scum but continued pressure will likely yield greater results.
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Dariush- I realize your a bit of a prickly cactus but you seem to change your votes more based on emotion, gut feeling and anger. Is this true? If so why, if not is there something you particularly find significant about your scumhunting?
Your "perfect scumhunting" isn't as perfect as you claim. Don't get full of your self. Your scumhunting day one was practically the opposite of perfect. You cursed people out for colours and pictures and then didn't lead a compelling case for the person you wished to lynch (solifuge) in case you have forgotten already. If you were perfect there would be no reason for us to question you in the first place because your perfect scumhunting would put a flawless case in front of our noses.
Does having an inflated opinion of ones scumhunting ability make someone scummy?  If not, I don't understand what place this paragraph has in this post.

OK. posting this tonight.  I"m not sure if I missed anything, i'm pretty tired.  I'll also probably finish responding to your post tomorrow.
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1. why would a towny want to narrow down a scums house number. We should scumhunt. Not try to find them in the middle of the night. This method is likely dangerous because you may come in contact with the scum and it does not seem efficient.
2. Of course it is reliant on them being scum.. well, not exactly. It is boosted if they are both scum. I am sure that at least one of them is scum and finding inconsistencies in the actions taken by the two people I find scummiest is something I would class as a scumtell. My point still can stand on it's own even if nerjin wasn't scum however.
3. The reason I stated "a lot of fluff" was because I figured what he said was obvious and didn't require being said. By saying it, he would apear to be on top of things but he would really just be saying the obvious thing that everyone was already thinking. Why do you think so many people saw ranger as scum? Because of these inconsistencies really.
4.No one said that ranger knows how to take advantage of a situation. It would have been easy for him to use my points. He just didn't because he was turtleing and trying to hide from the swift and painful blows of Dar. What I am trying to say is, my points are still valid and can't be thrown out the window that easily. Dar had to at least take my opinions into account, which he didn't seem to do.
5.Your opinion so I have nothing really to say there.
6.You can make assumptions right off the bat. "Oh, nerjin was scummy so IG will likely try to suck up" or "I'm surprised he hasn't posted yet due to Nerjin's track record, he has a lot to make up for". That's all. Anything. Any insight, but from Dariush, nothing, nada, zip.
7. Once again, it's more inconsistencies that make him scummy. If they were both scum that would strengthen all my theories but they do still stand by themselves.
8.I'm sorry for making a case differently than how you would prefer. I prefer analyzing over direct, "you're wrong 'cause of this". Also, my main complaint with this wasn't that he was calling cado scum but that his entire case felt like he was utilizing catch 22 to make him inevitably right and look good. Also taking the easy route and just plowing on through weak players definitely make him look scummy to me.
9.My main point was that ranger could have raised the bar to prevent scum from finding him out easily. Also, please take into account that these are quotes from the time that it was all happening so while right now we know that ranger wasn't thinking that way at the time we didn't know and Dariush surely saw all the flaws to his attack and the defenses of cado.
10.His statement may or may not be right depending on the conditions of the scum NK's. In this game, even though he wasn't a threat to mafia he might have been an easy target. In other words, scum might have still had intensive to NK him.
11.Yes. Bandwagoning is a scumtell.
12.I don't know what paragraph you are referring to.

I would have put that quote in a spoiler but it wouldn't format properly for me :\
Huh.  You're right.  The spoiler function is completely obtuse.  Ah well, you guys will just have to suffer through it.
1. Ever heard of a vigilante?  An asteroid of death comes to mind.  How about a cop?  Maybe a doctor?  All of these roles would theoretically require you to know the house number of your target.  You'd either want to find out who to target or learn who's house to avoid.  My point is that there are myriad reasons for town to attempt to find out the numbers of other people.  Scum also have incentive to do so of course, but in no way is this a scumtell.
2. You literally state (looks more like you trying to say “nerjin is scum, but I’m not going to really pay any attention to him because he is my scum buddy.”)  How is this point not reliant on Nerjin being scum?
3. Ranger clearly wasn't getting it.  Someone had to point it out to him.  I believe this is still a valuable example of when Daruish contributed, and the fact that you completely blew by it without anything to say other then casually labeling it fluff shows complete close-mindedness at best, and downright scumminess at worst.  Do you see yourself as having a completely bias attitude towards Dariush?
4. You are and have made up various reasons for why Cado would of done the things he did.  The fact is, those weren't his reasons.  He explained his reasons, and these weren't it.  So no, your excuses for why Cado did things weren't valid.  I never once considered your explanations for his actions valid.  Does that make me scum?
6. Your question was literally, "How scummy do you find Guardsmen?"  You asked this BEFORE Gaurdsmen ever posted.  I have a question for you.  How scummy did you find Guardsmen before he ever posted?
7. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!!! DO YOU NEED A THOROUGH EXAMINATION OF IG'S POSTS TO UNDERSTAND WHY HE WAS PLAYING BAD?
8. So... It's a scumtell to attack weak players?  Also, Do you disagree with anything specific in that post?  It looks like a general attack on Dariush, with nothing to do with the actual post.  And why did you never mention catch 22 in your first explanation, if that was your "main complaint"?
9. Okay.  Explain to me how that makes him scum.
10. What incentive would that be?
11. Agreed.  How about "leading a bandwagon"?
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Re: Toon Mafia VII - But I Don't Want To Re:Love! [Day 3]
« Reply #1143 on: June 29, 2013, 01:07:16 pm »

PFP (yeah..this looks like a chain of PFPs due to the cursed internet connection here...)
Not only that but you instantly believe Tiruin's claim despite no evidence other than my own action claim, which you do NOT believe, that she performed no kill last night. You are trying to gain more nights to kill, Shinigami, and I have no problem in seeing pond scum like you hang.
Could you expound the bolded part? You just said you acted on me, and now delve into specifics?

..And you say he doesn't believe what you're saying..where?
My claim. Read it fully.
Unvote. I have reasons to believe NQT is telling the truth here. Why? My wincon is the same. The difference with my role is that I cannot leave my home, but can make others come to me (as long as they are leaving their house in the first place). I can confirm that Tiruin did not leave her house in night 2, as my action had no effect. Night 1 I was interrupted as my home was invaded.

I think town has no female roles, and instead those are third parties.

As for the Ranger lynch, he seemed far too scummy to be what he truly claimed.

As for the part where he doesn't believe me, it's in the post you just quoted.


Also, griff, could you please spoiler that? Or just cut all the text and just leave a textless quote to serve as a link?
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« Reply #1144 on: June 29, 2013, 01:07:59 pm »

Huh.  You're right.  The spoiler function is completely obtuse.  Ah well, you guys will just have to suffer through it.
1. Ever heard of a vigilante?  An asteroid of death comes to mind.  How about a cop?  Maybe a doctor?  All of these roles would theoretically require you to know the house number of your target.  You'd either want to find out who to target or learn who's house to avoid.  My point is that there are myriad reasons for town to attempt to find out the numbers of other people.  Scum also have incentive to do so of course, but in no way is this a scumtell.
2. You literally state (looks more like you trying to say “nerjin is scum, but I’m not going to really pay any attention to him because he is my scum buddy.”)  How is this point not reliant on Nerjin being scum?
3. Ranger clearly wasn't getting it.  Someone had to point it out to him.  I believe this is still a valuable example of when Daruish contributed, and the fact that you completely blew by it without anything to say other then casually labeling it fluff shows complete close-mindedness at best, and downright scumminess at worst.  Do you see yourself as having a completely bias attitude towards Dariush?
4. You are and have made up various reasons for why Cado would of done the things he did.  The fact is, those weren't his reasons.  He explained his reasons, and these weren't it.  So no, your excuses for why Cado did things weren't valid.  I never once considered your explanations for his actions valid.  Does that make me scum?
6. Your question was literally, "How scummy do you find Guardsmen?"  You asked this BEFORE Gaurdsmen ever posted.  I have a question for you.  How scummy did you find Guardsmen before he ever posted?
7. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!!! DO YOU NEED A THOROUGH EXAMINATION OF IG'S POSTS TO UNDERSTAND WHY HE WAS PLAYING BAD?
8. So... It's a scumtell to attack weak players?  Also, Do you disagree with anything specific in that post?  It looks like a general attack on Dariush, with nothing to do with the actual post.  And why did you never mention catch 22 in your first explanation, if that was your "main complaint"?
9. Okay.  Explain to me how that makes him scum.
10. What incentive would that be?
11. Agreed.  How about "leading a bandwagon"?
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Re: Toon Mafia VII - But I Don't Want To Re:Love! [Day 3]
« Reply #1145 on: June 29, 2013, 01:25:16 pm »

Dariush:  Why no extend request?
I was half-asleep when making that post and forgot about the possibility to do so. -_-

Ford, consider choosing house #5 tonight. Pretty much everyone who isn't a scumass like Birdy has posted without claiming, so it can be reasonably assumed that no town live there.

Wut. Why did you copy GP's post?

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« Reply #1146 on: June 29, 2013, 01:31:58 pm »

Daruish: I don't know if you recall; but he and I are the same person...  I was editing the spoiler to work.
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« Reply #1147 on: June 29, 2013, 01:46:25 pm »

I do recall that. I was asking why did you do that, since the pointless Quote of Terror is still there and now your post takes up even more space. And now this post takes even more. Meh.

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« Reply #1148 on: June 29, 2013, 01:46:53 pm »

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1. Ever heard of a vigilante?  An asteroid of death comes to mind.  How about a cop?  Maybe a doctor?  All of these roles would theoretically require you to know the house number of your target.  You'd either want to find out who to target or learn who's house to avoid.  My point is that there are myriad reasons for town to attempt to find out the numbers of other people.  Scum also have incentive to do so of course, but in no way is this a scumtell.
I wasn't really thinking from this perspective. I was thinking from the perspective of a vanilla town having no reason to want to come across the bullies at night.
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2. You literally state (looks more like you trying to say “nerjin is scum, but I’m not going to really pay any attention to him because he is my scum buddy.”)  How is this point not reliant on Nerjin being scum?
I am looking at inconsistencies. Like I said, one of the two is definitely scum and watching Dariush brush off nerjin seems scummy. Even if they weren't scumbuddies, he might have seen him as a target that would result in drawing to much attention to himself.  (I think that made sense.)
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3. Ranger clearly wasn't getting it.  Someone had to point it out to him.  I believe this is still a valuable example of when Daruish contributed, and the fact that you completely blew by it without anything to say other then casually labeling it fluff shows complete close-mindedness at best, and downright scumminess at worst.  Do you see yourself as having a completely bias attitude towards Dariush?
Completely bias? I might be a little bit persuaded by my own arguments but I don't see any real bias. The thing is, I don't see anything making him look any less scummy and the fact that he refuses to respond to the case against him is super scummy. So while I might have "convinced myself" through my own case I do not see anything making him less scummy than what I believe.
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4. You are and have made up various reasons for why Cado would of done the things he did.  The fact is, those weren't his reasons.  He explained his reasons, and these weren't it.  So no, your excuses for why Cado did things weren't valid.  I never once considered your explanations for his actions valid.  Does that make me scum?
I would like to refer to something I said before.
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Also, please take into account that these are quotes from the time that it was all happening so while right now we know that ranger wasn't thinking that way at the time we didn't know and Dariush surely saw all the flaws to his attack and the defenses of cado.
I feel this is important to how people think. We have the privilege to see where the future events lead, however, we have to also take into account how events looked at the moment of the post. Also, while I do wish you would at least look at my opinions at face value and try to see where I am coming from, you are not more scummy do to these actions.
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6. Your question was literally, "How scummy do you find Guardsmen?"  You asked this BEFORE Gaurdsmen ever posted.  I have a question for you.  How scummy did you find Guardsmen before he ever posted?
I found him very scummy because he was the one taking the place of the very scummy nerjin. Another way this question could have been interpreted would be "how scummy do you find nerjin?" however because he had left us by this time that question was not valid.
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7. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!!! DO YOU NEED A THOROUGH EXAMINATION OF IG'S POSTS TO UNDERSTAND WHY HE WAS PLAYING BAD?
Sorry, I thought this was rhetoric. No, I do not need you, or anyone else, to tell me why IG was a bad player.
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8. So... It's a scumtell to attack weak players?  Also, Do you disagree with anything specific in that post?  It looks like a general attack on Dariush, with nothing to do with the actual post.  And why did you never mention catch 22 in your first explanation, if that was your "main complaint"?
Yes, I believe it is a scumtell to attack weak players. Very much so actually. Mafia tend to go after the weakest link so... yeah, I think you understand what I mean. I mentioned catch 22 in separate posts. I don't know where, but I have discussed it before. Also, people skip things, whether it was because I was thinking of other things or I simply felt like it did not need to be mentioned I did not mention it in the post. It's a natural human thing.
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9. Okay.  Explain to me how that makes him scum.
I'm stating that ranger would have had reasons to raise the bar. The portion of this that makes him scum is how he complained when personally, I found it quite understandable.
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10. What incentive would that be?
If scum need to know a house number to NK then they would be guaranteed to kill ranger who was locked up in his house. I see it as the scum has a guaranteed kill on someone who wished to help the town, that is the incentive.
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11. Agreed.  How about "leading a bandwagon"?
Half and half. Dar led a bandwaggon on someone who seemed to me, simply a weak player. This is scummy because it gives him an easy case and makes him look "heroic". Meanwhile, if someone leads a bandwaggon on a decent player and everyone else just bandwaggons on (which I think is the more common case) then the one leading it isn't scummy.

Deathsword, I will get to your points later on today. Sorry.
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Re: Toon Mafia VII - But I Don't Want To Re:Love! [Day 3]
« Reply #1149 on: June 30, 2013, 12:20:14 pm »

BTW, LS, if you knew that I could help you win all along, why didn't you claim so at the beginning of the day and instead voted me?
I didn't think that outing myself as a third party role would be good for my survival chances, particularly after RangerCado's claim.  Now that there are others claimed it's less of an issue.  I voted you because I wanted to look town-ish at that point and you seemed like the best option.
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Re: Toon Mafia VII - But I Don't Want To Re:Love! [Day 3]
« Reply #1150 on: June 30, 2013, 03:48:05 pm »

Hello everyone. I am posting this now so you have enough time to react.

This is a scum claim!

Now then, LS, NQT and deathsword; the "scum party" realizes that you have different win cons and that both you and mafia can both successfully win. We are proposing that you allow us to lynch town to make the number of mafia and townies even. From this point onward we will no lynch until all third party players have won.

If you do not go through with our idea of compromise we will NK you. (Once we know your house number, which we know for each of you, we can NK more than one person) Please keep in mind that you are not town and as long as you win, there is no reason for you to side with town. We are trying to allow you all to win.

Tiruin. "scum party" has a good idea of you must protect and we will NK this person if you do not follow through.

Ford. I would personally recommend destroying house 12. If you do not do this I think there might be a NK waiting for you down here on earth~
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Re: Toon Mafia VII - But I Don't Want To Re:Love! [Day 3]
« Reply #1151 on: June 30, 2013, 05:41:19 pm »

> Reread partly broken by the audacity of that claim.
> Notices that wording is weird and decidedly not in the natural verse.
> Scum party..wat. So you're like their pawn speaker, huh.

"Hey S_K, what're you doing? Why all the blatant and poor threats designed to persuade people into thinking your way? You do know that bullies are three, and that we're dwindling, aye?

"What's up? Has anything gotten to you? Feel sick? I hope you're doing ok."
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« Reply #1152 on: June 30, 2013, 05:56:15 pm »

This is a scum claim!
Cool stuff.  Even claiming scum, your logic sucks.
Now then, LS, NQT and deathsword; the "scum party" realizes that you have different win cons and that both you and mafia can both successfully win. We are proposing that you allow us to lynch town to make the number of mafia and townies even. From this point onward we will no lynch until all third party players have won.

If you do not go through with our idea of compromise we will NK you. (Once we know your house number, which we know for each of you, we can NK more than one person) Please keep in mind that you are not town and as long as you win, there is no reason for you to side with town. We are trying to allow you all to win.
The brilliant thing is, LS, NQT, and DS get to trust scum.  Not only that, but blindly vote whoever they tell them too, which happens to be the people they need to win, and do this with no guarantee of the scum ever holding up their side of the bargain.  Brilliant.  Of course, the only other option is to all be instantly night killed, because apparently mafia can kill everyone at one time as long as they know their house numbers.  Not only that, but apparently mafia know all your house numbers anyways, you better blindly do as they say and start lynching all the town boys.

Maybe Shinigami_King is a Joker, and is trying to get lynched.  Otherwise, scum are stupid?  IDK
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Re: Toon Mafia VII - But I Don't Want To Re:Love! [Day 3]
« Reply #1153 on: June 30, 2013, 06:05:30 pm »

Really seems like a stupid claim..and nothing's right with how he's threatening/wording it. Makes no sense why scum would claim other than because the situation at the moment is getting desperate and/or we're actually lynching one of theirs. Long shot, but makes more sense than whatever else I'm thinking on Shin.

"Humor me. Tell me who my target is."

Hmm, now that I think of it.

Shinigami_King. "Either you've something up your sleeve or you're basically taking one for your team--why're you 'claiming' with appeals to notions that only exist as theoretical notions, and general details which adhere to people's approval? When you say 'All to Win', how is that even possible if those girls have to stick with a town boy, huh?

"What's with all the blank-faced threats? You;re doing in quite everyone [LS, NQT, DS, Tir, Ford] except the rest. So scared on calling out your scumbuddies, huh?"
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Re: Toon Mafia VII - But I Don't Want To Re:Love! [Day 3]
« Reply #1154 on: June 30, 2013, 07:14:08 pm »

Vote Count

(1)Griffion - Zombie Urist
(0)Leafsnail -
(0)Captain Ford -
(0)Toaster -
(0)Tiruin -
(1)Dariush - Shinigami_King
(0)Zombie Urist -
(5)Shinigami_King - Giffion, Notquitethere, Dariush, Deathsword, Tiruin
(0)Deathsword -
(0)Notquitethere -
(0)Birdy51 -

(4)Not Voting: Captain Ford, Birdy51, Leafsnail, Toaster

Day 3 will last until Monday 7/1 at 11 PM EST

...Some of you should think for a minute...
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