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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22470 on: July 01, 2015, 10:39:33 pm »

 If they are metagaming, they are breaking a rule.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22471 on: July 01, 2015, 11:16:34 pm »

If they are metagaming, they are breaking a rule.
There is possibly some of that going on, but if there is, it's unactionable. I said powergaming, as in "you are the antag, I am on team nanotrasen (or rather, team ME), therefore, I will now kill you on sight." Sure, metagaming might play in, as in "hmm stuff is happening, it's secret mode, the person responsible must be Syndicate scum and therefore valid-murder-target.

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22472 on: July 02, 2015, 03:51:17 am »

If they are metagaming, they are breaking a rule.
There is possibly some of that going on, but if there is, it's unactionable. I said powergaming, as in "you are the antag, I am on team nanotrasen (or rather, team ME), therefore, I will now kill you on sight." Sure, metagaming might play in, as in "hmm stuff is happening, it's secret mode, the person responsible must be Syndicate scum and therefore valid-murder-target.
Or, you know, you can just point out the person you have a problem with, and if an admin is actually protecting them then *they* can be examined as well.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22473 on: July 02, 2015, 05:06:35 am »

But who watches the watchmen?
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22474 on: July 02, 2015, 05:31:44 am »

"you are the antag, I am on team nanotrasen (or rather, team ME), therefore, I will now kill you on sight."
I was going to quote the bit of the rues which covers this, but the forums are down for CPU load? Anyways, point them out to admins/mentors, at the least we will point out to them that their roleplaying sucks.

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22475 on: July 02, 2015, 05:59:26 am »

Hmm. Is 'us' all the players, or just the admins? And should glloyd go out of line, what can you actually do outside of complaining in the thread? Finally, what prevents a situation where the admins (and glloyd, presumably) cover for each other, and leave the players they don't favor out cold?

Just wondering out loud, by the way, not being terribly serious. It's just a 2D spessmehns game, after all!
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22476 on: July 02, 2015, 06:54:18 am »

Hmm. Is 'us' all the players, or just the admins? And should glloyd go out of line, what can you actually do outside of complaining in the thread? Finally, what prevents a situation where the admins (and glloyd, presumably) cover for each other, and leave the players they don't favor out cold?

Just wondering out loud, by the way, not being terribly serious. It's just a 2D spessmehns game, after all!

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Vactor becomes shithost -> man up and deal with it there's literally nothing we can do except get a new server
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22477 on: July 02, 2015, 07:15:27 am »

Clearly, we need a pre-emptive people's revolution.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22478 on: July 02, 2015, 01:22:56 pm »

If they are metagaming, they are breaking a rule.
There is possibly some of that going on, but if there is, it's unactionable. I said powergaming, as in "you are the antag, I am on team nanotrasen (or rather, team ME), therefore, I will now kill you on sight." Sure, metagaming might play in, as in "hmm stuff is happening, it's secret mode, the person responsible must be Syndicate scum and therefore valid-murder-target.
Or, you know, you can just point out the person you have a problem with, and if an admin is actually protecting them then *they* can be examined as well.
I've Pm'ed Aedel with my side of THIS particular situation.

But who watches the watchmen?
RC has a good point, but for my two cents, I support the admins of Urist. Only two admins since i was fortunate enough to be made moderator were, in my opinion, bad admins (no, Rabid, not you), and I made my opinion pretty clear back then. I'm not one to remain silent or shrug stuff like that off.

We're all human, and if a particular player tends to make life easier for the admins, it's only natural to give them a little more slack, but I will say that they don't tend to let serious bullshit go, not for long. I've been behind the scenes while players have complained about the admins not doing anything about "grief." Occasionally, it was an accident, a poor choice by a player, simple ignorance, or some other easily correctable attitude. When it wasn't - it usually doesn't take long (ymmv) for the admins to ban the offending griefer.

tl;dr. My issue isn't with the admins as if they were a gang of rogues. They are generally good people/players doing a challenging job.

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22479 on: July 02, 2015, 04:14:17 pm »

Clearly, we need a pre-emptive people's revolution.

Yeah, down with Glloyd! What a tyrant.


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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22480 on: July 02, 2015, 04:20:32 pm »

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22481 on: July 02, 2015, 05:54:40 pm »

* LordSlowpoke pulls a tank transfer valve out of their satchel

yes

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* BFEL  Transfers tanks from the tank transfer valve to the Ultraliberator Tank Brigade
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22482 on: July 02, 2015, 06:31:54 pm »

* LordSlowpoke pulls a tank transfer valve out of their satchel

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22483 on: July 02, 2015, 07:06:01 pm »

* LordSlowpoke pulls a tank transfer valve out of their satchel

yes

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* BFEL  Transfers tanks from the tank transfer valve to the Ultraliberator Tank Brigade
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im not sure if that includes me or not
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #22484 on: July 02, 2015, 07:43:21 pm »

If you have been on in the last week. So I'm banned.
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