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[smjjames]

Not seeing any more than usual.

This thread is kind of freewheeling in space without a topic atm I guess....

[Loud Whispers]

Slow Europe day

[LordSlowpoke]

anyone want to talk about palestine to get the banter flowing or wot

[Loud Whispers]

oyyyy veeeeyyyyy

Actually considering Israel and Australia are in Eurovision anything is possible

[LordSlowpoke]

man life would be so much easier if australia was part of the eu

we'd just force them to be less shitty about their internet and import some deadly animals in return

[notquitethere]

Let's talk about the UK police scheme to tackle Islam-themed radicalisation in schools.

On other occasions, a dinner lady reported him to teachers for inquiring whether any food in the canteen was produced in Israel. A teacher also spoke to his 14-year-old brother, who attended the same school and was told, "Your brother has radical ideas. You advise your brother to stop or we will report him to the intelligence agencies."

This is some thought-police bullshit right here

[LordSlowpoke]

it sounds like a reasonable counter, what issues are you seeing

[Dutchling]

Al Jazeera is probably not the most trustworthy source when talking about Islam/Israel-related issues.

[Sergarr]

This is some thought-police bullshit right here

How many times do I need to post this?!

Okay I'll do it once again: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/britain-is-too-tolerant-and-should-interfere-more-in-peoples-lives-says-david-cameron-10246517.html

“For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone',” he said.

[notquitethere]

I have problems with teachers informing on students. When I was at school I carried around a copy of The Communist Manifesto. Should intelligence agencies have been spying on me? I think this sort of think just creates an atmosphere of fear and distrust.

Al Jaz has an agenda, like all news sources, but I don't think anything they're reporting on here is false. They're not The Sun, they're not going to just make shit up.

[Dutchling]

I have problems with teachers informing on students. When I was at school I carried around a copy of The Communist Manifesto. Should intelligence agencies have been spying on me?

I'm sorry to inform you that the communist manifesto hasn't been edgy for over a couple of decades now.

Unless you're a lot older than I think you are, in which case, yes?

[Loud Whispers]

Hahaha, you scrubs think it's bad. No it's even worse. Teachers to have the power to report on parents of children who play COD or GTA (see: All of them).

I have problems with teachers informing on students. When I was at school I carried around a copy of The Communist Manifesto. Should intelligence agencies have been spying on me? I think this sort of think just creates an atmosphere of fear and distrust.

There were copies of the Communist Manifesto in my school libraries, are copies of the Communist Manifesto in all libraries and last time I went to waterstones there was a giftable Communist Manifesto collector's edition.

Al Jaz has an agenda, like all news sources, but I don't think anything they're reporting on here is false. They're not The Sun, they're not going to just make shit up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_controversies_and_criticism

[notquitethere]

OK, maybe the Manifesto was a misleading example. My point is that I don't want to live in the kind of country where teachers are encouraged to inform on their students. Where neighbours grass each other to the police for having deviant beliefs. First it's muslims, then who? Anarchists? Environmentalists?

[Graknorke]

But if they can't report children for doing nothing how will we stop terrorism???

See this kind of thing always bothers me. Why do the authorities need more powers to stop things that are already illegal. Reminds me of that law they brought in recently on selling drugs. Selling listed drugs along with things dangerous for consumption was already illegal. Why does it need to be illegal again?
And likewise with how they're inevitably going to try and make spreading some varieties of Islamic ideas illegal, when they could already crack down on the bad stuff because of it inciting people to commit crimes. The fact it's so unnecessary makes me suspect that it's not being brought in for reasons that are good for anyone.

[Sergarr]

But if they can't report children for doing nothing how will we stop terrorism???

See this kind of thing always bothers me. Why do the authorities need more powers to stop things that are already illegal. Reminds me of that law they brought in recently on selling drugs. Selling listed drugs along with things dangerous for consumption was already illegal. Why does it need to be illegal again?
And likewise with how they're inevitably going to try and make spreading some varieties of Islamic ideas illegal, when they could already crack down on the bad stuff because of it inciting people to commit crimes. The fact it's so unnecessary makes me suspect that it's not being brought in for reasons that are good for anyone.

You didn't get the memo. People will be punished, even if they don't break any laws. That's what Prime Minister of UK said. Making things illegal at this point is just a mere formality, it doesn't mean anything. The government wants you punished for "insufficient tolerance", you will punished.