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[Sheb]

I love it when Russians dont get the rule of law.

[Graknorke]

David Cameron is also pretty high on the cuntiness scale, so my respect or even acknowledgement of what he says is minimal.

[Sergarr]

I love it when Russians dont get the rule of law.

I love it when Prime Ministers of "democratic countries" don't get the rule of law.

Fucking Christ do you think I seriously think that punishing people not under the law is somehow good? Are you really that fucking dense to miss my fucking previous fucking post where I've made a fucking direct citation of Cameron saying exactly fucking that, and blame me for "not getting the rule of law"?

Uuuuuuuuuuurhjjjjasdasdasd

[Sheb]

Well, the thing is getting those law passed is not a "mere formality", its the important stuff.

[Loud Whispers]

OK, maybe the Manifesto was a misleading example. My point is that I don't want to live in the kind of country where teachers are encouraged to inform on their students. Where neighbours grass each other to the police for having deviant beliefs. First it's muslims, then who?

First it was Pedophiles, then Terrorists, then Pirates, then shitposters, then Vidya, then free Palestine - you'll never reach a point though where people are being reported on for being Muslim since Britain is so muslim already that you'd just be wasting time. Britain is one of the nations like Russia, China and recently America that has had a historical tradition of a strong intelligence bureau that has spied on its people/collected informants/foiled plots ever since the Crown split the Isles from Catholicism. These are not new or recent revelations. You're also probably preaching to the choir on Bay12, I doubt there's a person here who wouldn't get done in for "non-violent extremism" because we're edgelords to the max.
The free Palestine one might be a new addition by the Zionist lobby to the already strong intelligence bureau, but the intelligence bureau has and always will be there. There's nothing I nor anyone can do about it, and quite depressingly besides some reporters I've known and some shady Russians and Algerians no one I've met in Britain has been all that bothered. One phrase that keeps coming up is "nothing to hide, nothing to fear," popularized by that one NSA director. So much like China or Russia, don't rock the boat, keep instragramming pictures of what you had for dinner, don't go around spreading your tinfoil or someone'll be knocking on your door.
That's the other thing I suppose, the Brit services won't kill you. That's a plus. They might just do something like assassinate your character publicly or just have you arrested, politically neutering you.

You didn't get the memo. People will be punished, even if they don't break any laws. That's what Prime Minister of UK said. Making things illegal at this point is just a mere formality, it doesn't mean anything. The government wants you punished for "insufficient tolerance", you will punished.

I've never seen a Prime Minister this weak and flimsy since Gordon Brown. I've said it now and before, I believe this is Theresa May's idea and Cameron's just doing her a favour by giving his support.

I love it when Russians dont get the rule of law.

I love it when Prime Ministers of "democratic countries" don't get the rule of law.
Fucking Christ do you think I seriously think that punishing people not under the law is somehow good? Are you really that fucking dense to miss my fucking previous fucking post where I've made a fucking direct citation of Cameron saying exactly fucking that, and blame me for "not getting the rule of law"?
Uuuuuuuuuuurhjjjjasdasdasd

Cameron is not the law. He can't really do anything. Not for lack of trying mind you, he's just spineless and incapable of exerting any will.

[Loud Whispers]

They prepare for everything by spying on everything. They should really take Sundays off.

[scriver]

So some divers of some sort have reported having found a submarine wreck along the Swedish coast. According to them, it didn't look like it had been on the bottom for "very long", and the hatches were still closed, meaning the crew could have been stuck inside. The Defense is not currently saying anything beyond "we're investigating".

It could just be an old soviet era wreck for all we know currently, but I do remember that one of the things reported during the Swedish Submarine Suspicioning was that there had been caught a emergency radio call in Russian, so let's commence the Swedish Submarine Suspicioning 2: Electric Borkalo.

[Sergarr]

Well, the thing is getting those law passed is not a "mere formality", its the important stuff.

So you didn't get the point, right.

What I've meant by this is that, if UK gets the ability to "punish people, even if they don't break any laws", as Cameron (or whoever is his puppetmaster) said, then laws stop mattering. If a government wishes to fuck with your life, they just do it. No trials, no anything - once you're deemed as "insufficiently tolerant" or whatever the crap, your career/job is forfeit.

There's literally no reason to ever proclaim "even if they don't break any laws" if you don't want to abuse it in a way I delineated above.

[Loud Whispers]

So some divers of some sort have reported having found a submarine wreck along the Swedish coast. According to them, it didn't look like it had been on the bottom for "very long", and the hatches were still closed, meaning the crew could have been stuck inside. The Defense is not currently saying anything beyond "we're investigating"
It could just be an old soviet era wreck for all we know currently, but I do remember that one of the things reported during the Swedish Submarine Suspicioning was that there had been caught a emergency radio call in Russian, so let's commence the Swedish Submarine Suspicioning 2: Electric Borkalo.

They're probably fine

Well, the thing is getting those law passed is not a "mere formality", its the important stuff.

So you didn't get the point, right.

What I've meant by this is that, if UK gets the ability to "punish people, even if they don't break any laws", as Cameron (or whoever is his puppetmaster) said, then laws stop mattering. If a government wishes to fuck with your life, they just do it. No trials, no anything - once you're deemed as "insufficiently tolerant" or whatever the crap, your career/job is forfeit.

There's literally no reason to ever proclaim "even if they don't break any laws" if you don't want to abuse it in a way I delineated above.

Russia already does that and they haven't collapsed in anarchic lawlessness

[Sergarr]

Russia already does that and they haven't collapsed in anarchic lawlessness

Fuck no, what we do is make a lot of bullshit laws, and then selectively enforce them. It's seriously different from just saying "fuck the laws, we gotta be actively tolerant".

[Graknorke]

*Actively intolerant

Davey boy's issue is with people being too tolerant of people who aren't breaking the law.

[scrdest]

They prepare for everything by spying on everything. They should really take Sundays off.

As the article states, it's far less insane than it sounds. Heaven's Gate DID happen, after all, and turns of millenia always bring the kooks out of the woodwork.

[smjjames]

So some divers of some sort have reported having found a submarine wreck along the Swedish coast. According to them, it didn't look like it had been on the bottom for "very long", and the hatches were still closed, meaning the crew could have been stuck inside. The Defense is not currently saying anything beyond "we're investigating".

It could just be an old soviet era wreck for all we know currently, but I do remember that one of the things reported during the Swedish Submarine Suspicioning was that there had been caught a emergency radio call in Russian, so let's commence the Swedish Submarine Suspicioning 2: Electric Borkalo.

It's entirely possible for conditions to make underwater wrecks look pristine. Especially in the cold waters of the Baltic.

Also, linkage to article?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

So some divers of some sort have reported having found a submarine wreck along the Swedish coast. According to them, it didn't look like it had been on the bottom for "very long", and the hatches were still closed, meaning the crew could have been stuck inside. The Defense is not currently saying anything beyond "we're investigating".

It could just be an old soviet era wreck for all we know currently, but I do remember that one of the things reported during the Swedish Submarine Suspicioning was that there had been caught a emergency radio call in Russian, so let's commence the Swedish Submarine Suspicioning 2: Electric Borkalo.

If this one is modern then I bet that submarine crew was on vacation.

[Erkki]

Link to the news article, with photos: http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/frammande-ubat-hittad-i-svenskt-vatten/


edit: looks like something is perhaps growing on the submarine(the picture with the (perhaps cyrillic) letters). Maybe. So it may not be from the last year's incident.