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[Ukrainian Ranger]

Reports from both separatists who are a bit wary of the newcomers and their posts about it, from some polish news sites as wel I can see if I can find an English or Ukranian languuage source for you...

This okay? (first googlle linkheh, on phone so can't verify quality too much)
http://anton-shekhovtsov.blogspot.com/2014/06/polish-fascists-are-joining-pro-russian.html?m=1.

Oh, black side of far-wingers...

Well, I hope Ukrainian army will help Poland to cleanse their nation from the guys who may welcome Putin's troops in Poland sometime later.

I find it so strange that many nationalists of Europe like Putin. It is hard to find a country were nationalism is more suppressed than in Russia. I suspect it is that kind of people who think that racism+homophobia=nationalism

I can't believe that Polish nationalists and pro-Russians are going to fight on one side.
This can't be happening.
It makes no sense

I find Don Cossacks and Kadyrov's guys fighting together even more strange In fact, Poles and Russian attacking Ukraine is same time is something that happened before

And damn, national guard unit recruited from Maidan Self-Defense  units and Berkut fighting in one trench sounded unreal few months back

[mainiac]

In the end the referendum came to nothing, although a lot of that is still on Labour failing to support the vote

Labour was not the ones that the Libs cut a deal with.  The Tories were.  The same Tories who actively campaigned against it.  The law didn't prevent the Tories from doing that but the law didn't compel the Liberal Democrats to play ball either.  Nick Clegg was an idiot to pay such a high price for an empty gesture.  His party will never have that opportunity again and for good reason, they showed they didn't deserve it.

[scrdest]

It still doesn't make any sense. Polish nazi-onalists tend to be RABIDLY anti-Russian, and their stance on Ukrainians tends to be more condescension than aggression.

[Kicior]

Apparently the Ukranian Separitist forces nowcontain a whole lot of Polish Nazis. A group called "Falanga" has pledged their support to the righteous brethren in eastern ukraine and begun shipping over fighters wholesale.

I seriosuly doubt that these falanga guys are actual fighters (more like HURR DURR EUROPE GAY RUSSIA STRONK PAN-SLAVISM FOREVER clowns) and there definetely isn't a whole lot of them. By the way, Bekier's site has been described as a part of Russian information warfare in a report by Centre for Eastern Studies (unfortunately I don't think it's  available in English).

[Owlbread]

It still doesn't make any sense. Polish nazi-onalists tend to be RABIDLY anti-Russian, and their stance on Ukrainians tends to be more condescension than aggression.

From what I can tell, there's quite a few far-right "Pan Slavic" nationalists even in Poland. Pan-Slavicism lends itself well to Neo Nazi stuff. After all, Pan-Germanism is central to Nazism.

[smjjames]

Reports from both separatists who are a bit wary of the newcomers and their posts about it, from some polish news sites as wel I can see if I can find an English or Ukranian languuage source for you...

This okay? (first googlle linkheh, on phone so can't verify quality too much)
http://anton-shekhovtsov.blogspot.com/2014/06/polish-fascists-are-joining-pro-russian.html?m=1.

Oh, black side of far-wingers...

Well, I hope Ukrainian army will help Poland to cleanse their nation from the guys who may welcome Putin's troops in Poland sometime later.

I find it so strange that many nationalists of Europe like Putin. It is hard to find a country were nationalism is more suppressed than in Russia. I suspect it is that kind of people who think that racism+homophobia=nationalism

Uh, Germany maybe? Russian nationalism doesn't seem very suppressed, at least when it comes to ethnic Russian nationalism.

And yeah I also find it pretty strange that the Polish nationalist people are fighting on the side of the Pro-Russian people, given Polands history.

Add into the fact that there are Chechen fighters over there too (probably unwillingly), it's looking less homegrown and more something else.

[GlyphGryph]

I seriosuly doubt that these falanga guys are actual fighters (more like HURR DURR EUROPE GAY RUSSIA STRONK PAN-SLAVISM FOREVER clowns) and there definetely isn't a whole lot of them. By the way, Bekier's site has been described as a part of Russian information warfare in a report by Centre for Eastern Studies (unfortunately I don't think it's  available in English).

It looks like Falanga has been shipping off members to do stints of combat tourism for a while now, and have apparently done stints in places like Syria. Doesn't make them badasses of course, but they're probably more skilled than a lot of the genuine Ukranians fighting.

Also, like I said, link was just the first thing I found, I've seen it in a number of other sources as well.

http://censor.net.ua/video_news/285915/luganskie_terroristy_otlavlivayut_i_izbivayut_afrikantsev_priem_u_nas_na_vysshem_urovne_video
Looks like the Pro-russian's are also rounding up immigrants and minorities, yanking them off the streets and "detaining" them, in addition to declaring martial law. So it seems like the sort of thing that would be right up the Polish Nazi's alley, when you think about it? The Polish group also supported Western separatists too, though, so I think they just really want to see Ukraine break up.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

smjjames
Neo-nazism feels itself nice in Russia. Russian imperialism is even encouraged by propaganda. Racism is ignored as long as doesn't go violent without a permission. But ethnic nationalism? I think not

Ethnic nationalism is based on traditions. On small things: Classical literature, folk songs, national clothes, historical myths, centuries old holidays and more stuff like that. It is a basis

All of that is far from being important for Russian government or majority of Russian people

Ethnic nationalism cares about ethnic territories remaining more or less homogeneous vehemently opposing any large scale (im)migration in core territory. Russian government ignores that as long as migrants are loyal to it.   

Ethnic nationalism cares about traditional morals. And not, that is not "Gays should be burned alive." or "Husband has a right to beat his wife" stuff. It is more "Having Proper families is essential for a health of the nation"

Again, Russian "nationalistic" Spends no more effort on propagandizing that than Western Europe

[Sergarr]

Russia does not have ethnic territories, because there are no ethnic Russians. Russians are citizens of Russia, simple as that. Ethnicity, gender, all these animal-like things do not matter!

[Dutchling]

Russia does not have ethnic territories, because there are no ethnic Russians. Russians are citizens of Russia, simple as that. Ethnicity, gender, all these animal-like things do not matter!

Wouldn't that be nice, huh

[Kicior]

It looks like Falanga has been shipping off members to do stints of combat tourism for a while now, and have apparently done stints in places like Syria. Doesn't make them badasses of course, but they're probably more skilled than a lot of the genuine Ukranians fighting.

Also, like I said, link was just the first thing I found, I've seen it in a number of other sources as well.

Is there any proof of them actually fighting?

The Polish group also supported Western separatists too, though, so I think they just really want to see Ukraine break up.

What do you mean by western separatists?

[Sheb]

Well, they wanted Poland to take over the parts of Western Ukraine that were historically polish territory.

[da_nang]

Well, they wanted Poland to take over the parts of Western Ukraine that were historically polish territory.

Shit, we better start sending troops to Karelia and Petsamo then. Gotta keep up with the standards of today.

[LordSlowpoke]

Well, they wanted Poland to take over the parts of Western Ukraine that were historically polish territory.

Shit, we better start sending troops to Karelia and Petsamo then. Gotta keep up with the standards of today.

i thought the #1 reason for why you don't want these areas back is that they're full of russians

[Guardian G.I.]

Civilians fleeing to Russia to escape fighting in East Ukraine.

Also, yet another Russian television crew was detained by Ukrainian forces yesterday - journalists of the television channel Zvezda were detained at a National Guard-held roadblock for "spying".