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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2013, 11:40:32 pm »

Wouldn't that just be incentive for people to not have female prostitutes?

Anyways, prostitutes in the LCS wouldn't get pregnant if you were aiming for realism.
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2013, 11:55:56 pm »

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I think it would be a cool idea if female liberals could get pregnant during prostitution, and based on juice they weould either stay or leave the LCS

Ignoring the sexist implications I am going to go with a no. I don't think this is a good idea for the game.
Ok, how is that sexist? Some people use prostitution, and women can get pregnant. You'd have to be dedicated really dedicated to something to not leave to give birth and love a child, if anything it would be supporting feminisming when you poke holes like that.

The "stay or leave the LCS" part.
I fail to see how its sexist. They make the choice to either say and fight for the LCS and have the child, or leave to raise a family risk-free. If anything its showing a women's right to choose.

Yeah because they are women and they have womanly parts thus they cannot be trusted -_-

Everyone ELSE leaves their lives behind to be part of the LCS, why are women different other then they give birth to children?
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Re: Im a little ball of ideas.
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2013, 12:10:37 am »

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I think it would be a cool idea if female liberals could get pregnant during prostitution, and based on juice they weould either stay or leave the LCS

Ignoring the sexist implications I am going to go with a no. I don't think this is a good idea for the game.
Ok, how is that sexist? Some people use prostitution, and women can get pregnant. You'd have to be dedicated really dedicated to something to not leave to give birth and love a child, if anything it would be supporting feminisming when you poke holes like that.

The "stay or leave the LCS" part.
I fail to see how its sexist. They make the choice to either say and fight for the LCS and have the child, or leave to raise a family risk-free. If anything its showing a women's right to choose.

Yeah because they are women and they have womanly parts thus they cannot be trusted -_-

Everyone ELSE leaves their lives behind to be part of the LCS, why are women different other then they give birth to children?
Its a game Neon, you're reading to much into it.

Besides, the birth of a child can really shake things up and make you think. Realisticly, it would be because the child would be a reason to leave, what other reason do people have to leave the LCS?
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2013, 12:22:40 am »

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Its a game Neon, you're reading to much into it.

Hey you ask the question you get the answers.
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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2013, 12:34:21 am »

LCS female pregnancy would not come about via prostitution. Jimmying up while trimming tricks is as solid a law as not breaking rocks when you're trapping.

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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2013, 04:59:11 pm »

while this seems active still id like to ask if we could make a far-off building that mimics the federal reserve. although im not sure how laws would affect them since some argue they affect laws...any idea's?
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2013, 05:42:23 pm »

If pregnancy comes along than what would happen if a women got pregnant and then you changed her gender to man? You could also just changed your women to men, defying the point.
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2013, 05:50:29 pm »

Unfortunately, pregnancy doesn't give a damn about your liberal gender identities.
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2013, 05:57:36 pm »

ff2 lcs does track what gender an npc starts as, so thay say pregnant.

3man75, isn't the  federal reserve basicy a massive bank?

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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2013, 08:04:01 pm »

1. I think it would be a cool idea if every once in a while there was a "Health" roll to see if someone gets sick or an "Agility" check to see if someone gets hurt while doing stuff. Meaning at random times a prompt that says something like-

Please, sweet merciful science, no. The last thing the game needs is people randomly dying for no reason. There are already plenty of totally legitimate ways you can die in this game.

2. I always though fighting in LCS was a little cut and dry, so the idea of guns being able to jam came into my mind, a few updates ago actually, I just never brought it up. I think that it would be cool if swords could get dull after a while, and they would need to go have the blade sharpened.

A well maintained gun shouldn't jam very often, and swords (at least longswords/euroepan blades) aren't sharp at all. If a weapon relies on sharpness to penetrate the target, armor will stop it cold. Since this update is neither realistic nor cool, I can't recommend it.


3. Something I never liked is that bodies just stay in your safehouses forever, I think that after a while that bodies should decompose, making it so when cops raid a safehouse and find the bodies, they can't tell who, so the liberal above them doesn't lose juice. But so its not so OP they should only decompose very slowly.

With dental records/dna, that would take a long time. Also, decomposing corpses an an apartment would make it damn near uninhabitable, and draw heat like CRAZY unless you were fridging it. Though a wood chipper/tub full of acid to make disposal easier would be very cool.

4. I always found that healing liberals in the safehouse with no special room was a little unrealistic. If you removed a bullet from someone's body in just any old room, theres a very big chance that the wound would get infected, so I though of an option to buy a special room under the safehouse menu, but since safehouse upgrades can seem expensive at the beginning, where fighters are most likely to get hurt while trying skills, I think it should only make healing faster in that safehouse.

I always figured that washing your hands/using clean instruments/keeping the first aid room clean came under the first aid skill. But a fully stocked first aid room or AED kit might be nice.


5. I know Im not the first person to suggest this and I probably won't be the last, but I like the idea of gambling in LCS. I had two ideas for this though, two different ways to do it. One way being an active via the action menu, the other being a special location on the edge of town. I also think there should be a skill for it, as well as an option in the begining of the game to help get a skill boost at the start of the game.

A Casino location has some VERY interesting possibilties. Mafioso. The secret backroom high stakes card game where you run into celebrities and ceo's. Robbing the Casino ala Oceans 11 (make it nearly impossible, but provide a HUGE payoff). Or just stealing from the patrons.


6. One thing Ive been thinking, but seemed WAY to over-powered, are ways for you to train your special skills like strength, agility, etc. I can't remember all the special skills at the moment, so I can't really give ideas on what would make them improve, but Ill try to remember to get back to this.

This would be overpowered. Actually, the request I'd make is to combine body/strength into a single stat, but I don't think this is likely to happen.

7. I think it would be a cool idea if female liberals could get pregnant during prostitution, and based on juice they weould either stay or leave the LCS. And if abortion laws are Liberal enough, they could get an abortion as well, but they have to have a certain amount of heart to actually go through with an abortion for the LCS. But, if they don't get an abortion, after 9 months where the liberal could do pretty much nothing but sit around, you would gain a 0 y/o liberal with no skills, and no actions until they get old enough to do stuff.

And if you have a first aid of 11, you can use the coat hanger option even at max conservative laws! I'm sorry. THIS is the last thing this game needs. Sweet fuckity Jesus, please no.
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« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2013, 07:04:41 pm »

I'd suspect gun maintenance might vary based on the gun--automatics could justify needing more maintenance than semis, etc.  I know the original M16 was a maintenance hog.  As for edged weapons, well, I don't know how many people actually use The Sword of Morfiegor (I issue one to my lead Sword user as a badge/office) but Daisho exist in-game.  (Never have seen anyone go for the wakizashi, though.)

Wood-chipper/acid facility would make an excellent site-specialty (see: infirmary, dojo, shooting range, printing press, etc).

Was thinking some sort of organized-crime group as a second OPFOR would make things interesting--they like some laws Conservative so there's more room for vice/corruption, but don't like open crime.  Would use handguns/SMGs, probably own the Crack House and the Club, but they would call police for crimes committed within.  Gets angry when LCS causes enough trouble to send a site into High Security or Closed Down.  I'd prefer to have to do a site special "Hit" to run them out/town but the idea is already a mess of coding.
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2013, 04:49:39 pm »

I like this.  Not sure where it'd go in the safehouse-enhancement list, but having specialized facilities would be a fine way to differentiate safehouses and change up runs.  (For example, the Printing Press, Dojo, Firing Range, and Infirmary might all go in the same space.  One only gets three upgradeable safehouses, at most.  Which would you want the least?)

A firing range is an interesting idea: set a Liberal to do that as an activity, train related weapon skill while using up your ammo.

Also, another idea for safehouse improvements could be implementing something that actually utilizes the business front. In my last game i always pictured some poor soul walking into the Duke Temp Agency looking for a job, and accidentally stumbling across my stockpile of weapons and ammo, with some Conservative lawyer locked in the back room calling for help. So maybe, you could set Liberals to work at the business front as an activity, which brings in a small amount of revenue and slightly increases Secrecy, maybe limit it at five people wrking at a time so you can't abuse the Secrecy gains?

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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2013, 12:47:24 am »

I like this.  Not sure where it'd go in the safehouse-enhancement list, but having specialized facilities would be a fine way to differentiate safehouses and change up runs.  (For example, the Printing Press, Dojo, Firing Range, and Infirmary might all go in the same space.  One only gets three upgradeable safehouses, at most.  Which would you want the least?)

A firing range is an interesting idea: set a Liberal to do that as an activity, train related weapon skill while using up your ammo.

Also, another idea for safehouse improvements could be implementing something that actually utilizes the business front. In my last game i always pictured some poor soul walking into the Duke Temp Agency looking for a job, and accidentally stumbling across my stockpile of weapons and ammo, with some Conservative lawyer locked in the back room calling for help. So maybe, you could set Liberals to work at the business front as an activity, which brings in a small amount of revenue and slightly increases Secrecy, maybe limit it at five people wrking at a time so you can't abuse the Secrecy gains?
Yeah, those ideas have been around a while now--having it burn ammo* is a good check on its effects, though, and good job thinking of it.  FWIW I've thought of the training facilities as speeding training that takes place there (for instance, offsets large-class-size penalties or gives a bonus to XP gained/day) rather than letting Liberals simply Use Facility and gain XP.

*Or perhaps generalize to doubling training costs ($200/day to Train Fighting), to cover targets, etc.

Putting the Business Front as an income-earner is also a perennial idea.  General consensus IME is that there are plenty of ways to get rich already (to the point where people can afford those AA guns at restricted Gun Control), so making the fronts generate income seems unnecessary.  Someone else was wanting to swing them to Liberal facilities like animal shelters, food kitchens, etc, and I'd agree as last game my drug-dealing bake sales had brought in over $1M in cash.  We could easily open a Charity Front for at least one of the safehouses.
Problem with income-generating Fronts, now that I think of it--they might also be Conservative Ponzi schemes depending on how one gets that income.  Are we charging that poor person a job-finding fee, and where will we find them a job?  Is Winter Health Insurance collecting premiums for insurance that wouldn't actually pay--or are we offering to give them the same care we give our Liberals?
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« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2013, 06:23:10 pm »

Yeah, those ideas have been around a while now--having it burn ammo* is a good check on its effects, though, and good job thinking of it.


Why, thank you fine sir.

Putting the Business Front as an income-earner is also a perennial idea.  General consensus IME is that there are plenty of ways to get rich already (to the point where people can afford those AA guns at restricted Gun Control), so making the fronts generate income seems unnecessary. 

I agree with you on this. My line of thinking was just that there are pretty limited legal ways to make money. Like you said, you can rake in millions selling baked goods, or prostituting for that matter, yet selling embroidered shirts, or playing street music doesn't really bring in much income. Making clothes is, IMO, the only real viable way of making money legally. I was just thinking that you could make the business front serve more of a purpose, while adding another oppurtunity for players to make money legally. I remember there was a thread floating around about trying to take the crime out of Liberal Crime Squad and that's what made me think of it. Also, setting up your own personal sweatshop never struck me as the most ethical means of making money...

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« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2013, 07:32:18 pm »

Pregnancy, eh?

Now I image a two year old toddler, in full SWAT gear, and toting a M4 Carbine blast her way into the Halls of Ultimate Judgement.

Rachel Sheffelds yells out
"LET GO OF MY DAD!"

Security guard bolts!
Lawyer has a family!

Rachel Sheffelds unlocks the cell door!
Gordon Sheffelds has been tortured and must be carried!

Rachel Sheffelds hauls Gordon Sheffelds!

Pure Awesome.
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